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hello and welcome to the show i'm martin

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wilsher host

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and uh it's halloween it's not just

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halloween it's a blue moon halloween

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last time that happened was 1944

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so i wasn't expecting to have the show

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on halloween

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but i wanted to accommodate our great

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guests this evening

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paul stonehill uh his has such a busy

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schedule this is how we worked it out

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and uh so uh if you're listening

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uh to youtube live next week

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is going to be not next week tuesday but

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the following tuesday

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we have irene prevanon from

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australia she's going to be on but so

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if you're looking for the show on

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tuesday it's not going to be there

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it will go out as a podcast as usual and

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over at kgra radio

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so my guest this evening is paul

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stonehill

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he's going to be talking about his book

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which is called russia's

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ufo secret you uh sorry uso secrets

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unidentified submersible uh objects

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in uh russian and international waters

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uh that

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this is a topic that has fascinated me

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right from the beginning so i'm really

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excited

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to have him on and i'm going to bring

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him in right now welcome to the show

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paul

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thank you appreciate it yes

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uh paul you were on uh i think back in

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something like that long time ago and

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i'd like for you if you would

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uh introduce yourself uh tell the people

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your background i know you're on ancient

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aliens quite often

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um but i want to know uh what got you

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interested in the topic and

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basically your overall background i was

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a typical soviet

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teenager but what was a typical i was

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interested in

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um ancient alien theories let's say we

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call it paleo contact

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in russian and i was looking for ways

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to get into it and i spoke to somebody

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who actually observed the ufo back in

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1936 when he was a pilot

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in the arctic air force of the soviet

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union

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and um i found ways to get information

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we had a very great magazine called

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technica maladoji

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in the soviet union it still exists and

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it broke the ice in many ways and it

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it was daring magazine you could read

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stuff in it

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cosmonauts who reported strange things

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naval officers and one thing to lead to

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another i spoke to people

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even after i got out from the soviet

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union i was able to get

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in touch with naval personnel uh those

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who escaped to the west or who were here

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on a brief visit and one in and i kept

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collecting

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information it is a fascinating subject

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they soviet military observers had

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very interesting things down in the

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oceans or in the sky

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but they couldn't talk about it openly

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in the soviet union

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except for the provided channels

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such channels included a top secret ufo

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slash uso research program

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called sietka which involved the whole

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of the soviet armed forces

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and they had to report on strange aerial

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phenomena that they observed nobody

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thought said ufos

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it was not an uh term that was uh liked

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to be used and um that's how i started

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wow interesting and you say you know

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there's a lot going on

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and um that's what i've uh you know i've

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been to russia five times now and and uh

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i've i've tried to talk to people there

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had some you know conversations but not

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such great length um with anyone but uh

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but there are there are many cases that

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well known one of them is really strange

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uh before we get into the topic of what

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you did

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sure you know for your book um i don't

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know how to pronounce it it's something

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like the verona

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i'll be brief what happened is that a

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number of kids were in a park central

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park and

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all of a sudden a ufo appeared out of

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and there was a robot with a weapon and

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disappeared and reappeared again it was

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very interesting story it had been

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and the local ufologists have been in

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touch with them uh

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they reported under you know on the case

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and since it was during garbage of times

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there was international interest great

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what i always tell people that don't

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barissa glebs is not far away from there

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and this is one of the

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most secretive russian military

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facilities for aircraft training

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and testing and top guns and for years

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ufos and other objects in the sky

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such as in an immobile black cloud

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that soviet jets were getting into but

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they had a very difficult time being

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inside that cloud and they lost all

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kinds of machine

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equipment and aircraft lost it came to

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the point that

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a local commander appealed to the siatka

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research program i just mentioned

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begging them to send experts to find out

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what's going on why are we losing

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aircraft everybody knew this was no

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americans or

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anybody else so varonish is not far away

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and there is also nova varunish which

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had an

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which has an um nuclear power station

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and there were some interesting things

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i remember late vadim chernabrov who was

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one of the top russian ufologists he

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mentioned stories this was going i think

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where there was a strange crash in the

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area and the military sealed off all the

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area this is a new russia this was not

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the soviet union

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so they recovered something but who

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knows what it was

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yeah um the times that i've spent in

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i've been on the black sea in the city

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of novorossiysk

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and i'm probably saying that wrong but

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you know it um yeah have you ever heard

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of any and

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any type of ufo sightings in that area

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oh there's some black sea

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that's a tremendous history in the book

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i have uh

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you know we have a whole chapter with

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philip mantle we put together we got as

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much information

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as possible yeah in that uh in the whole

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um there were cases of objects going in

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and out

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and and one of the cases i always bring

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up is by late

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uh kusovkin sergey kuzovkin who was very

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interesting russian

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ufo researcher he had uh friends

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who were scientists marine scientists

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they went down below and they observed a

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gigantic

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facing them you know they were like in a

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battiscuff

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and uh it it was a uso

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and then it changed its uh place and

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it was vertical and then it became

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and it uh basically moved away at

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incredible speed

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there's been more even not far from

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balaclava which was one of the most

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secretive naval

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submarine bases during the soviet times

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built in the granite rock they had ufo

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all around and you know i i

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bring up information from scientists

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and military personnel because they're

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most more likely to be believed than

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somebody who is

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not who is just a plain civilian sure

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sure now i saw you mentioned in your

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your book

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about and i've heard it many times that

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we know more

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about what's on the moon than we do in

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the depths of our oceans

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you know there's it's just we have so

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much unexplored territory

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um and i've heard other people say that

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what a great place to hide is in in the

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the thing um that i do want to discuss

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at some point today is

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what i've heard of uh i i think

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lou elizondo says um between mediums

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you know they can travel between mediums

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you know the air and then right into the

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water just like it's

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you know like it's not even there which

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another thing that's really strange high

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speeds

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and things like that yeah yes

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um so uh let's let's talk what what made

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you decide to do

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your book it's just one one like me it's

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very interesting is that just one of the

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things that fascinated you about

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russian navy is is some you know i've

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my family has been involved uh you know

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we had people who served in the russian

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navy

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all this to well i collected all the

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information

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and most of it came like in late 1980s

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uh when the soviet union was

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disintegrating

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and and garbage of policies came forth i

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i remember i uh saw this magazine

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for example it was called ayaan anna

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marini

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anomalous phenomena it was published i

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think somewhere in the baltics

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in 1989 1990 and here i see

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a statement by a former no still a

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captain of the soviet navy

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domin and he had a diagram and he

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presented information about objects

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going in and out

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of the sea and what the military

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observed and how they

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wanted to bring forth this information

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one thing led to another i've got other

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information other documents i've been

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working with the soviet ufo

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groups at the time many people are have

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passed away now and the groups do not

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exist

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but they did at that time and the

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information came out and they sent it to

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me in the united states

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and we called each other and we helped

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i remember was with the soviet uh

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american

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uh feather um federation for ufo

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research and i helped him

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anyway possible and it was it was a

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great time

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i i remember getting information about

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phobos incident

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and others but i specifically was

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interested in the uso research

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simply because i in my youth i travel to

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different parts of the

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of the soviet union my father served in

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siberia in the far east

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and he told me stories too wow

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oh he did your father did he told me

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stories

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about the tiger and the concentration

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camps and

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a few other he wasn't into my research

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but

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because of him i i love that uh

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territory and

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i you know i still do and i want to

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explore more if i still have time

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or abilities like the ural mountains the

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urls have incredible ufo

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uh paranormal phenomena or the far east

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of russia

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especially the coral islands and the uh

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territory even even not far away from

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the so called dragon triangle or devil's

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triangle

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things are happening there it's in my

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book too but

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outside of that things keep getting and

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i think the chinese know that too and

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are very much

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interested in that territory as well and

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the coral eyelids martin

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i brought up a case not long ago it's my

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youtube channel

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and this is what was one of the first

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cases that i brought up and it's going

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on

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but nobody talks about it here the

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island of matua

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uh one of the coral islands uh the

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soviet uh the russia

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russian army is now in full control of

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the island

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meaning uh there is no

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access for those who have no business to

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be there

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only government uh scientists

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in the army there's something strange is

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going on there uh

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and the japanese they didn't want of

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course to give up this island but they

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had to

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however they had a chance to to hide a

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few things there

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this was one of the places where nazi

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submarines kept coming after

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nazi germany was crushed very

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interesting

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now in the new research that the

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russians are doing

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they also discovered a few of the

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american submarines that went down that

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nobody knew about

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stalin i know that stalin of course was

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very much interested in it as were the

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americans

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who wanted to get the islands and stalin

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said no you give me a lewtan islands

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i'll give you this

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maybe but the point is that there is

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something that

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of more paranormal aspect that's going

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on in that

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island and we have we heard stories

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about uh

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about structures that go down 50

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uh floors or so down below and very

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unusual findings now

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i also do as much research as i can uh

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of the area and there is an island not

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far away from there in the courier

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called rashua and um i have uh

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recollections of a former soviet uh

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officer who observed they observed uh

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strange structures down below

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very clear like an ancient city

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and uh they came back somewhat sometime

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later and it wasn't there anymore

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ah that's why

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yeah yeah that sounds really fascinating

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now you talked about the urel mountains

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and the uh

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makes me think of the diot love uh pass

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uh

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incident which was which was another

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really strange thing that is

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on still unanswered to this day a lot of

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people have an interest in that one

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yeah if if people are interested i want

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to underline that i do

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once at least once every few months i

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bring up more information because

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what happened is the russian um

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police let's say or more investigative

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uh

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investigative agency they have a new one

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opened up this case and they came with

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the same conclusions

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it was due to uh natural

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uh causes but but it's not so we know

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that

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and i keep bringing up more information

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including photographs that

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mostly mostly nobody in the west has

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seen because there is a source in russia

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who provides us information

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and um to open sources and i want people

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to know that yes the investigation

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can come up with any conclusions but

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there are others in russia who are

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trying to find more

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it's a very complicated case even those

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who perished have a very interesting

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background

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and we're just finding out that one two

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and two do not add up to four

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in this case yeah um you know i'm

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wondering since

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it was of course my fault for bringing

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that up but

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i'm wondering if we could just give an

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overview of the

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love pass incident just from as i

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mentioned

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early on i have a lot of new listeners

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wondering if you wouldn't mind

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uh just kind of giving a nutshell of the

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story

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1959 a group of young

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mountain explorers or skiers tourists

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like we say in russia

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go we go to a very secluded mountain

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uh we where the local people live muncie

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people who don't want others to come

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because they have sacred areas there and

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this young people uh stay the night

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uh in the um they stay inside inside the

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tent and then something

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scares them to the point that they're

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naked or semi-naked

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undress run out from from this tent

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disperse in the area and then slowly

446
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perish

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one by one and uh finally some of the

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last ones to be alive they crawl back to

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the tent and they die

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some of them were killed by

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uh because we found radiation by

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something like a directed

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ray of energy uh after after a while

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when their bodies were discovered

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they were missing body parts and what's

456
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interesting that they investigated the

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investigation was

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complicated from the very beginning

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local communist party officials did not

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want things to come out

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there were uso sighted in the area some

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people mentioned

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something like yeti or snow abominable

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snowmen seen in the area

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now there are rumors that the kgb was

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involved in maybe

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intercepting an american spy expedition

468
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there is so much complication about

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including possible

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not very likable but like but

471
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possible missile tests that shouldn't be

472
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it's a secluded cold area very cold you

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can die for from exposure

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um in the polar arc uh ural arctic and

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but

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you gotta take the whole ural mountains

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as it is there are so many paranormal

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phenomena and so much of the ecology has

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been wasted

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during the soviet times by by

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unnecessary experiments

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and there were cases of nuclear

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accidents

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and bacteriological weapons so one thing

485
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leads to another and we still don't know

486
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what happened

487
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wow yeah and just also some of the

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details

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on that is they they cut instead of

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going out

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through their tent they cut through it

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and they left without shoes on

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uh i don't think any of them had their

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shoes on or boots on

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uh and they ran and they were you know

496
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they weren't wearing their coats or

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anything i mean they got out of there

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fast whatever it was they got out of

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there fast

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and they found the tent um months later

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under the snow and that's

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and they found the bodies uh one uh by a

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tree obviously he tried to climb a tree

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one of them did

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right well he tried to and clothed and

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on the trees itself they found uh a

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residue of

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of something like lasers would be uh

509
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directed or you know

510
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we're shooting at that tree this is what

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they found there's more wow

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i mean there's so much more they also

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before that they visited

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areas they should not do like sacred

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monsie

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of you know local people um sites

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and then you know some people say well

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they were murdered by by monster because

519
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of that

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that's the monsie people are are

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peaceful

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yeah no no no i i don't want but there

523
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is much more i mean including the

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footprints even

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that were discovered some say well there

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were some people who

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actually were not um you know without

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shoes

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and there is more and some of the

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objects like i said

531
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there were a few days ago a few days

532
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before that they observed ufos and

533
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also on the day of their death so it's a

534
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complicated case and but somebody in

535
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russia doesn't want continuation of

536
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investigation

537
00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:57,360
wow wow uh let's see there's uh there's

538
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a lot of questions pop in and

539
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occasionally i think i think i should

540
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put one up and

541
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i apologize if i don't get to your

542
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questions um

543
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today but uh this one here your book uh

544
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russia's

545
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uso secrets can you elaborate on

546
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documents on

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russia subs and the battle uh with

548
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aliens

549
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is that are you familiar with russia

550
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okay what

551
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first of all soviet uh submarines had

552
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encountered

553
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unusual objects down below

554
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uh there had been they were chased by

555
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very

556
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gigantic objects sometimes usually they

557
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could just

558
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observe what was going on there wasn't

559
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battle with you

560
00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:40,320
uh for aliens there were skirmishes

561
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throughout the history of

562
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soviet ufo research and i mentioned it

563
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throughout

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and um aliens is not i we can say

565
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:53,039
advanced extraterrestrial uh

566
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intelligent civilization or something

567
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:57,039
else that lives down below we will

568
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discuss it

569
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but soviet submarines would be

570
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annihilated

571
00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:05,360
yes by an unknown force and

572
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sometimes we have records of such

573
00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:11,679
cases but as you can imagine there is

574
00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:12,640
only so much

575
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:16,000
we can do so what you had is

576
00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:20,080
us terrestrial people observing

577
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:23,360
unusual gigantic beings or

578
00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:26,400
objects moving through the water you

579
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:26,880
know

580
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:29,039
shooting through the eyes coming back

581
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:30,240
into the water

582
00:21:36,549 --> 00:21:33,760
or observing gigantic um

583
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:36,559
motherships which would separate into

584
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:37,919
smaller pieces and

585
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:40,159
there are cases that definitely i want

586
00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:43,039
to bring up the 1953 case

587
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:46,559
over siberia uh when stalin died

588
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:49,919
and the ufo was hovering over a

589
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:53,200
very um let's say um classified area of

590
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:54,960
the taiga because they had

591
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:57,440
special institutions doing their own

592
00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:58,559
military research

593
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:00,720
well that object gigantic object was in

594
00:22:06,430 --> 00:22:03,600
the area separating into smaller objects

595
00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:06,440
and what why i bring it up because in

596
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:07,600
1979

597
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:10,080
in the book we have statement of

598
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:12,159
domislovsky who was with the counter

599
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:13,039
intelligence

600
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:16,559
pacific fleet

601
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,120
and they mentioned in the area secluded

602
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:21,120
area of the pacific ocean

603
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:24,159
exactly the same ufo

604
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:27,200
800 to hundred meat meters in

605
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:30,159
size splitting into smaller objects

606
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,640
which

607
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:33,120
were going down descending into the

608
00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:33,919
water

609
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:37,360
and later coming up and they observed

610
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:39,440
that very interesting stuff

611
00:22:44,789 --> 00:22:42,559
um so i hope i answered your question if

612
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:44,799
you're looking for something that

613
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:48,159
we uh you know we had had to to hand

614
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:49,679
fight with alien stone

615
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:52,320
that did not happen our torpedoes would

616
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:53,679
not be able to even to

617
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:56,880
to to to gain on them yeah

618
00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:59,120
uh before we move on and and this this

619
00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:00,960
is all fascinating to me but i wanted to

620
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:01,840
ask you

621
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:04,880
what is the attitude of or what was it

622
00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:07,360
of uh you know the soviet union and now

623
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,039
the federation

624
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:11,200
what is their attitude toward ufos i

625
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:13,120
know george knapp went over and was able

626
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:14,880
to get some documents but

627
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,720
what is their uh attitude as far as uh

628
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:20,880
it being a fringe topic or do they take

629
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:22,159
it serious

630
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:25,919
and uh is there access to two documents

631
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,919
well it was a complicated under the

632
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:29,919
soviet union you had ideology which we

633
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,880
don't have today

634
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:32,960
russia is a different country i i know

635
00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:34,240
it's not being brought up in our

636
00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:35,039
newspapers

637
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:37,039
it's a different country soviet union

638
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:40,000
was our ideological enemy so to say

639
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,840
and the united states was perceived by

640
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:43,600
enemy but this was basic primitive

641
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,640
propaganda

642
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,559
now the soviet union they were it was a

643
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:48,480
complicated attitude by the government

644
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,600
to ufos

645
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,520
they did not they they called them a

646
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:53,200
bourgeois inventions

647
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:57,279
or or you know fakes um enemy

648
00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,720
uh you know like enemy creations to

649
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:02,480
to fool soviet people but it wasn't like

650
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,640
that they were confused

651
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:06,480
and they wanted to find out the answers

652
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,159
that's why they created this

653
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:10,320
special program sietka and other ones

654
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:11,600
that existed

655
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:14,400
of course in my my personal opinion

656
00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:15,600
based on my risk

657
00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:17,919
information i have no doubts that the

658
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:19,840
united states and russia worked hand in

659
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:20,480
hand

660
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,520
on the most interesting cases which we

661
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:25,279
don't even maybe know about

662
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:28,960
but the soviet union wanted to find out

663
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:32,000
and at the end think you know

664
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:33,919
because of gorbachev when everything was

665
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:35,120
changing they

666
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:37,520
changed their attitude too and in 1991

667
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:38,480
they released

668
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:41,679
a file of documents from the kgb to

669
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,480
soviet ufo researchers with the help of

670
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:46,799
of uh

671
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:49,200
ukrainian soviet cosmonaut which we will

672
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:51,120
talk about because he knew a few things

673
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:52,960
about what's going on down below

674
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:55,600
we need to talk about it later anyway

675
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:57,039
documents were released but

676
00:25:01,029 --> 00:24:59,120
of course not all the documents we still

677
00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:01,039
don't know what the setka documents most

678
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:01,440
of them

679
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:05,039
are this was soviet attitude it it it

680
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:07,360
continued to about 1994.

681
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:08,880
yeah you could get very interested

682
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:10,960
documents that's why george snapp could

683
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:11,440
come

684
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:13,760
to russia get part of the cia documents

685
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:14,640
and leave

686
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:16,880
without being arrested this cannot

687
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:18,000
happen anymore

688
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:20,799
it's a different reality and in today's

689
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:22,000
russia they continue

690
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,080
research it's much more

691
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:29,279
complicated less information comes out

692
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:29,919
but i

693
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:32,880
have an idea who is doing it where the

694
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:34,880
bright young people come from

695
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,840
who do the uh government research and

696
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:39,760
it's very much connected to the russian

697
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:40,240
space

698
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:45,840
forces which have existed since 1970s

699
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:48,960
wow now when you're doing your research

700
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,159
how available is information for you do

701
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:53,840
you just have connections that you can

702
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:54,400
speak

703
00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:58,080
i want to tell you that there's this

704
00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:59,679
book that we're talking about today

705
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,919
about russia's uso secrets it was

706
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:03,440
published in russian

707
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:07,279
and they i got so much um

708
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:09,200
you know people thought people tried to

709
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:11,360
reach out and thank me and i'm proud of

710
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:12,640
it too i want them to know

711
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,279
history of their navy and what happened

712
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,120
and they made videos about it

713
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:19,520
so to many of them it was a surprise and

714
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:21,600
i find it interesting because

715
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:24,000
i i'm a researcher i know how to get

716
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:25,120
information out

717
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,440
there are very cool still russian

718
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:29,279
researchers left in the field mikhail

719
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:31,520
gerstein is the first one

720
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:34,320
still active still trying to get stuff

721
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:35,039
out and

722
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,760
recently he we got more information

723
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,520
about yakutia for example

724
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:42,000
a book we were looking for by a local

725
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:44,480
person who is really into this stuff

726
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,559
and you know helps um other ways um

727
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:50,720
newspapers in russia today it's all

728
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:51,679
different

729
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:54,000
but there was a period where you they

730
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:54,799
were publishing

731
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:58,080
interesting stories back in 1990s today

732
00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:00,320
i would say they republish all the

733
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:01,360
information

734
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:03,679
there is not much coming out from russia

735
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,480
today

736
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:07,440
but because we live in the age of the

737
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:09,120
internet

738
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:11,679
there are interesting videos that are

739
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:13,200
being filled in russia and

740
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:15,919
of course it's 75 or more it's military

741
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:16,400
tests

742
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:20,080
but not all people are less afraid

743
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:22,399
i needed some illustration for for my

744
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:24,240
book and then videos for

745
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:27,520
uh for example areas you know in the

746
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,320
north

747
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:31,200
uh not very open areas around narilsk

748
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:32,000
and others

749
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:34,240
and the guy told me yeah please use my

750
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:35,039
here he

751
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:38,320
here's the ufo i filmed in 2015.

752
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:39,919
incredible stuff you can use my

753
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:42,480
photograph and that's good i'm glad the

754
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:43,440
russians are more

755
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:46,159
open less afraid and want to know more

756
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:48,159
about their country

757
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:50,480
yeah yeah that's excellent here's a

758
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:51,520
question uh jeff

759
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:54,799
has there is a lot of anecdotal talk

760
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:55,919
about russian

761
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:58,640
slash soviet fate crashes and russian

762
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:00,480
plants

763
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:04,559
credible

764
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:07,919
sources for that well we

765
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:11,520
crashes the most interesting one that i

766
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:14,880
uh bring up is the 1978 shoot down

767
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,600
of over here by a very interesting

768
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:19,760
person who actually created the missiles

769
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:20,880
that brought down

770
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:24,159
france's powers american

771
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:27,679
spy plane anyway in 1978 in central asia

772
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:30,640
they did manage to shoot down a ufo

773
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:33,520
i don't know what ufo where it came from

774
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:34,559
and they did

775
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:38,240
obtain enough information to do

776
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,279
to improve their missiles um how true it

777
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:43,360
is i bring up

778
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,480
cases and names and uh involved

779
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:49,200
now soviet nuclear power plants that's

780
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,559
in russian that's a very

781
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:53,039
interesting case um and i made a few

782
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:55,679
videos about it so people can see

783
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:57,600
and check out sources of course in the

784
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:00,640
books philip mental and i put together

785
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:04,000
we have information about the visits of

786
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:07,200
ufos to soviet nuclear plants and

787
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:10,000
inability of people down below to do

788
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:11,679
anything about it just like when they

789
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:12,720
visited

790
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:16,080
dubna that's a secret facility for

791
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:17,440
nuclear research

792
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,320
in 1970s and the scientists saw this

793
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:22,960
gigantic object over them

794
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:25,600
and they were calling moscow and moscow

795
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:26,720
and kremlin said well

796
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:28,720
don't worry we're in control moscow

797
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:31,360
wasn't in control nobody was in control

798
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:33,760
and uh they they keep coming to the air

799
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:34,720
like the

800
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:37,039
in other parts of russia and very

801
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:38,399
interesting i bring

802
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:42,159
up information of gennady belimov

803
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:45,440
who is one of the most interesting

804
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:47,520
soviet and now russian ufo researchers

805
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:48,799
who actually published

806
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:51,840
a textbook on ufos for college

807
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,760
many years ago after the end of the

808
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,679
soviet union well anyway he brings up

809
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:57,600
information about ufos

810
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:01,039
um over uh russian nuclear power plants

811
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:04,320
and how they were getting

812
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:07,600
soil collected and brought up to the

813
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:08,320
ships

814
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:11,279
very interesting stuff so yes it does

815
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:11,760
happen

816
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:14,320
but i want you to be careful when you

817
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:15,679
comes to

818
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:18,399
crashes i know there are fakes i don't

819
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:18,720
know

820
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:22,080
if intentional or not that keep bringing

821
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,600
up information oh yes the soviets

822
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,360
recovered

823
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:27,840
be very careful the film you're talking

824
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:28,480
about

825
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:30,480
it looked like it was taking place in

826
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,360
the 40s in the 1940s that crash

827
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:35,600
yeah that's a fake film right there's a

828
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:37,039
lot of fakes it's like kgb

829
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:40,960
chasing uh mommies or alien racers

830
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,000
we've got to be careful yeah right right

831
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:46,320
uh someone stephen wants to know uh

832
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:48,559
about the divers that encountered

833
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:51,919
uh uh what they encountered in 1982 in

834
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:53,360
lake bakai

835
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,720
or however you see that i call it listen

836
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,399
martin if you ever go to russia try to

837
00:31:02,789 --> 00:31:00,799
visit this lake because

838
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:02,799
i hope it's it's still preserved it's

839
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:05,120
one of the treasures of our planet

840
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,880
very unusual lake because we don't know

841
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:08,960
exactly what's going on at the bottom

842
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:12,000
even today and of what er tunnels

843
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:15,120
are connected to it anyway in 1982

844
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:17,120
it's there's a whole chapter in the book

845
00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:18,720
about the so-called swimmers

846
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:21,039
but i'll tell you basic stuff through

847
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:22,640
the years i was able to confirm the

848
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:24,320
veracity of the story through my own

849
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:24,960
research

850
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:28,159
bucket but in 1982 a group of soviet

851
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:30,080
frogman was sent to catch

852
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:33,120
a gigantic about nine feet tall

853
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:36,320
uh humanoid beings operating at the lake

854
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:36,799
at the

855
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:39,039
bottom of the lake of baikal a number of

856
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:40,720
soviet frogmen perished

857
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:44,000
as as the result of this unfortunate

858
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:45,279
expedition

859
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:47,600
and then the order came down through the

860
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:48,480
soviet uh

861
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:52,720
forces armed forces do not interfere

862
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:56,080
if you see such um creatures

863
00:32:02,549 --> 00:31:59,360
beings down below in the in the lake or

864
00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:02,559
uh by color is cool in central asia

865
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:05,840
a hot spot for ufos for example do not

866
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:09,039
bother them and then i did as much

867
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:09,919
research

868
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:13,120
as i could about similar cases about the

869
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:13,519
same

870
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:17,200
timeline in the soviet union and uh

871
00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:20,559
you know like we say lo and behold uh we

872
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:22,399
found the case from the

873
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:27,360
siatka files when uh ufo was crashed

874
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:29,120
and there was a military crash of a

875
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:31,600
military i'm sorry a military plane

876
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:34,399
and there was an explosion in a ufo

877
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:35,600
lefty area

878
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:38,320
well before that the servicemen soviet

879
00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:39,200
servicemen

880
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:42,159
observed exactly the same creature nine

881
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:43,360
feet tall

882
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:46,159
same uh looking the same same features

883
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:46,720
and

884
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:49,919
also dressed in the same silvery

885
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:52,080
like suit or you call it whatever you

886
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:53,200
want

887
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,200
and then we bring information about

888
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:57,440
russian counterintelligence in the far

889
00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:58,080
east

890
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:00,799
that's next to china they're worried and

891
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:03,200
about the same creature observed in the

892
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:03,840
area and

893
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,679
how they studied footprints well there

894
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:07,919
is more there is more because we

895
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:11,120
bring information from ancient india and

896
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:12,320
the so-called

897
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:15,120
races who live down below and we we work

898
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,000
with an indian scientist on this

899
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,159
because there is a definite connection

900
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:22,480
going back to the ancient times

901
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:25,519
and lake baikal outside of that had so

902
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:26,720
many cases

903
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:29,200
going back to the 19th century and of

904
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:30,399
course before

905
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:34,000
of strange ufos observed over it

906
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:36,159
and please remember president vladimir

907
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,039
putin

908
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:39,760
went down to the bottom of lake baikal

909
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:43,200
in a special apparatus in 2009.

910
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:46,000
yeah i remember that yeah and he doesn't

911
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:49,120
do anything without the reason

912
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:52,000
wow didn't they when he was there didn't

913
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:53,200
he find some

914
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:55,679
early uh vessel you know like some

915
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:56,960
pottery or something that's what i

916
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:57,919
remember

917
00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:00,159
uh seeing when i watched him in that

918
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:02,159
submarine i think they found something

919
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:04,080
yeah it was staged they put it for him

920
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:07,440
to find him of course

921
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:10,560
but he knows that you know if i get

922
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:11,359
stuff

923
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,320
with my uh you know any effort i can and

924
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:16,240
i'm a good researcher i know that but

925
00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:19,440
i i also know my limitations but if i

926
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:20,079
get this

927
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:22,720
of course they know what's going on i

928
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:24,000
did they're perfectly they have a

929
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:24,720
wonderful

930
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:27,760
you know i mean in the efforts that they

931
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:28,879
do they have a

932
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:32,240
navy that is being built and is

933
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:34,800
going to be one of the powerful navies

934
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:36,399
in the world they put a lot of money

935
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:37,280
into it

936
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:39,440
and look they're building up uh the

937
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:41,359
arctic areas now

938
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:44,000
and of course the far east and not a

939
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:45,520
russian navy is going to be

940
00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:47,440
present more and more in the atlantic

941
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:49,240
and it brings you back to the days of

942
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:50,560
1970s

943
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:54,240
or 1960s when exactly the time

944
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:57,040
when the soviets started encountering

945
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,400
strange objects

946
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,560
during their expeditions to the nato

947
00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:02,640
waters and the shores of the united

948
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:03,599
states

949
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:05,200
and they were going crazy it's all in

950
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:08,480
the book in the chapter about kovaci

951
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:11,520
which means those who croak make sounds

952
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:12,079
like

953
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,480
frogs that's some of the sounds that

954
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:16,480
they observed or heard

955
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,079
from these gigantic objects that

956
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:22,640
appeared out of nowhere and tried to

957
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:23,920
kind of reach out

958
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:26,560
to soviet submarines and you are in a

959
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:28,000
native waters

960
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:30,320
you are in a special mission americans

961
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:32,240
can attack at any time because they have

962
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:32,960
the right to

963
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:35,200
and all of a sudden you see this object

964
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:36,880
and you know a soviet submarine i think

965
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:38,079
what is it

966
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:40,240
so what are we dealing with is this a

967
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:41,920
new american

968
00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:45,040
observation system to to to

969
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:46,960
find out about soviet submarines could

970
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,119
be but it was not

971
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:51,119
because years later they found out

972
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:52,960
during the

973
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,520
perestroika gorbachev times they spoke

974
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:57,119
to their nato colleagues

975
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:00,400
and they found out that this was no

976
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:03,280
that nato did not send such objects and

977
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:05,839
vice versa that the soviets did not

978
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:09,200
send up such objects to um

979
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:12,160
chase nato submarines so we know now

980
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:14,000
that the americans and nato

981
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:16,240
had similar experiences but it's all

982
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,280
hushed up

983
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:19,920
but not the soviet information because

984
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:21,839
it came out because of this time

985
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:25,040
very persistent uh forward

986
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:27,359
former soviet navy officers and others

987
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:29,359
and i bring them up in in the book

988
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:32,400
such as evgeny litvinov uh who is a very

989
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:32,960
aged

990
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:35,920
person now but nevertheless as a former

991
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:38,400
soviet submarine officer a navy officer

992
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:40,480
he was active in the russian

993
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,800
geographical society section for the

994
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,160
paranormal

995
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,040
research yeah i can just imagine you

996
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:49,119
know national geographic in the united

997
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:49,599
states

998
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:51,520
having a section for the paranormal

999
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,400
research well in russia it exists

1000
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:56,400
not many people still alive but those

1001
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,720
who were did a lot of good research like

1002
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:00,079
this litvinov

1003
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:03,760
and i i cherish his books he's a very

1004
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:06,480
limited edition of his uh of his

1005
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:07,520
research books

1006
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:10,079
on the uso cases throughout the world

1007
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:10,880
and he mentioned

1008
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,560
and i'm proud that he mentions my

1009
00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:14,880
research because i published articles in

1010
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:16,560
russian many years ago

1011
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,240
and they were smuggled into the soviet

1012
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:20,720
union and finally they were published

1013
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,079
years later and we could compare

1014
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,160
information listen

1015
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:26,320
something is going on down below

1016
00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:27,920
something incredible

1017
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:30,079
the chinese know about it i have no

1018
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:32,480
doubts americans and the soviets worked

1019
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:33,599
hand in hand

1020
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:36,640
that that forget i mean cold war existed

1021
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,280
for people like you and me

1022
00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:40,960
people who wanted to change things like

1023
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:43,040
i wanted freedom to come to the soviet

1024
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:44,240
union this and that

1025
00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:47,440
way at the top there was no cold war

1026
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,240
information i believe with 100

1027
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,160
information was exchanged

1028
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,200
uh programs were being worked out and

1029
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:58,320
we know uh we know for sure look at the

1030
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:01,119
phobos mission to mars in 1989

1031
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:04,320
it was a joint western soviet program

1032
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,000
look at the research of the um

1033
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:10,800
mariana strange and you know i bring up

1034
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:12,880
as much as i can about mariana strange i

1035
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:15,119
had a video done about three years ago

1036
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:18,480
i had a lot of um people are reaching

1037
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:19,440
out to me because

1038
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,200
yeah things are going on in mariana

1039
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,359
strange and the soviets were very much

1040
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:25,680
interested and and they had americans

1041
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:28,160
aboard soviet ships and vice versa

1042
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:30,720
scientists who wanted to know why is it

1043
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,000
that we're losing our

1044
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:34,640
equipment and what's going on down below

1045
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,320
i want to remind your listeners that it

1046
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:38,079
was the americans

1047
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:41,280
an american and a swiss in 1963 aboard

1048
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:42,720
the swiss submarine

1049
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:45,040
bathus cup that went down below and for

1050
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:46,400
many years nobody

1051
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:49,920
else could get in but it's changing

1052
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:52,640
uh russia is building and china ever

1053
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:53,040
more

1054
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:56,320
powerful submersible

1055
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:59,200
apparatuses and they're eager to get in

1056
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,000
especially china

1057
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:02,400
keep an eye on it they created recently

1058
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:03,440
a special

1059
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:06,560
institute for um deep underwater

1060
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:08,160
research and they had a few missions

1061
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:09,119
down there

1062
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:11,359
the japanese are ever present in that

1063
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:13,359
area they know what's going on

1064
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:15,920
and you have the island of guam not far

1065
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:16,720
away

1066
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:19,599
i was in touch with a journalist who

1067
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:22,000
published information about ufos

1068
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:25,280
over guam island bright young men

1069
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:28,400
and americans should know this is this

1070
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:30,560
is the american territory so try to find

1071
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:32,400
out what's going on there

1072
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:34,640
very interesting and what i found

1073
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,160
interesting martin and i

1074
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:38,880
i want to finish up with this is that in

1075
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:39,440
the midst

1076
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:42,000
of the so-called cold war about i think

1077
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:43,599
1982

1078
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:47,040
throughout my book

1079
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,599
the us armed forces decided to

1080
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:54,160
diminish presence of american forces on

1081
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:55,359
the island

1082
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:58,480
and the troops were cutting why

1083
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:01,119
i mean this was 1982 china is there

1084
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,720
russia is there

1085
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:04,400
things are going on in our planet that

1086
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:05,920
we can only

1087
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:08,720
surmise about and speculate but

1088
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:09,760
definitely there are

1089
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:11,520
areas of the world that are very

1090
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:13,839
interesting to to the governments of

1091
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:16,960
most important nations and uh

1092
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:18,960
i would definitely say it has to be the

1093
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:21,359
arctic the indian ocean

1094
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,480
and definitely mariana strange

1095
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,720
and also because we live in the united

1096
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:28,720
states we should pay more attention to

1097
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,240
the bahamas

1098
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,880
to the bermuda islands caribbean sea

1099
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:34,319
because these soviets

1100
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:37,520
when they did for other reasons and

1101
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:40,720
captains of soviet submarines

1102
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:43,520
presented information about strange also

1103
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,319
gigantic

1104
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:46,800
and other objects they had seen moving

1105
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:48,160
at incredible

1106
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:51,040
speed i would say what 400 kilometers

1107
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:54,560
per hour like 250 miles per hour

1108
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,000
moving past submarines and i have names

1109
00:41:01,829 --> 00:41:00,480
and dates and this was in the bermuda

1110
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:01,839
triangle area

1111
00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:05,200
also by bahamas by other areas very

1112
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:07,359
interesting stuff

1113
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:09,680
wow this is really fascinating i know

1114
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:11,599
mark d'antonio talks about being on a

1115
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:12,480
submarine

1116
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:15,839
and something was going about 200 knots

1117
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:18,720
you know he was a visitor he wasn't he

1118
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:19,119
was

1119
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:22,079
there as a contractor yeah and uh it's

1120
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:22,960
quite a story

1121
00:41:27,630 --> 00:41:25,119
um you know we think about the modern

1122
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:27,640
what we call the modern ufo era

1123
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:31,040
1947 on upward um

1124
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:34,079
did that sort of follow suit also in in

1125
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:37,359
russia well well in the we have

1126
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:39,280
first of all in ancient we can go back

1127
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:42,160
to the times of ancient roths ruse

1128
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,200
and others and uh who i have uh

1129
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:47,520
in my books and videos i bring up this

1130
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:48,480
uh

1131
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:51,359
various skilled observer an arab

1132
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,720
diplomat

1133
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:54,960
from the halifax of baghdad who traveled

1134
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:57,440
to the reaches of the volga river to

1135
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:01,200
visit local muslim states

1136
00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:03,839
and people and he observed this was 10th

1137
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:04,560
century

1138
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:06,800
he observed an aerial battle in the sky

1139
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:09,119
and his description is vivid

1140
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,640
and of course he was afraid he started

1141
00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:12,000
praying and the local people started

1142
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,480
laughing no no we see it quite often

1143
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:16,720
very interesting and uh in the

1144
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:19,200
description is in historical books

1145
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:21,119
and uh that that's one but of course

1146
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:22,640
there were other cases in the russian

1147
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:23,599
history

1148
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:26,480
in the early middle uh medieval times

1149
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,040
and on

1150
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:29,760
and also georgia armenia a few other

1151
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,960
states and central

1152
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,640
asia this is you know i love central

1153
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:34,400
asia and the case is there an

1154
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:37,040
iseku lake that i mentioned so we we

1155
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:37,760
have this

1156
00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:40,240
but in modern times you you know the the

1157
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:41,280
biggest

1158
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:44,720
case was the 1908 tangaska phenomenon

1159
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:46,000
when something

1160
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,280
exploded or was taken out was destroyed

1161
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:52,160
or imploded in the sky over the tiger

1162
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:55,599
in in siberia and the effects down below

1163
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:58,560
were incredible in this case still

1164
00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:01,520
still nobody knows exactly what happened

1165
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:04,760
and and then we had a few cases in 1920s

1166
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:08,079
1940s during the war some before the war

1167
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,520
but 1940s

1168
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:11,599
there were very interesting cases of

1169
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:12,560
ufos

1170
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,359
over the battlefields and occupied

1171
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:17,040
territories of the soviet union nazi

1172
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:18,640
occupied territories

1173
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:21,680
and i i have videos about it and it's

1174
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:24,560
outside of that it's in our books but

1175
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:25,920
also

1176
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:29,119
in this book we we have a case of 1951

1177
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:32,000
when a gigantic object was going towards

1178
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:32,800
the soviet

1179
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:36,560
it and the sources

1180
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:38,960
is the most trustful pitochov alexandre

1181
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:39,599
pitoghoff

1182
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:42,160
one of the best ufo researchers in the

1183
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,400
soviet union and a scientist

1184
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:46,240
and you know they had they were previous

1185
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:48,400
to some of the cases maybe a regular

1186
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:51,680
soviet citizens would not be you know

1187
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:55,520
um united states has its own ufo history

1188
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:58,560
we respect it but what i want to say is

1189
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:59,359
that

1190
00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:01,119
united states is but one country you

1191
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,480
have incredible

1192
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:04,319
size-wise country like russia and you

1193
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:05,520
have china

1194
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:07,920
with their cases and i'm glad i have

1195
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,119
sometimes

1196
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:11,440
ability to see chinese developments

1197
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:12,400
through the russian

1198
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:14,560
information they're very much interested

1199
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:16,960
on what's going on in that country

1200
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,480
so they had cases that go back to the my

1201
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,160
god to the you know

1202
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:24,640
millennia ago to the yellow emperor of

1203
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,359
china

1204
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:27,359
i love that period and i did my own

1205
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,400
research

1206
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:31,200
and most people don't know about him but

1207
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:32,560
he brought

1208
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:35,040
civilization to china he gave from

1209
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:36,720
acupuncture

1210
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:40,160
to sciences to you know

1211
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:42,640
rice production and so forth it was him

1212
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:44,079
who brought it to china but

1213
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:46,800
he was the person who ruled for a long

1214
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:47,359
time and

1215
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:50,880
finally departed on a fiery dragon

1216
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:54,000
spaceship back to the regulus uh

1217
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:57,040
constellation tell me this is china for

1218
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:58,720
you i'm not even speaking about some

1219
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:00,400
other countries

1220
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:04,079
so yeah but in 1940s you had another you

1221
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,720
asked me

1222
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,560
well you have to understand that first

1223
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,880
of all united states was a territory for

1224
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:10,480
a soviet espionage

1225
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:13,280
they had many agents here very capable

1226
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:13,760
people

1227
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:15,920
and those who wanted to help soviet

1228
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:18,480
union voluntarily and they provided

1229
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:19,760
information to

1230
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:22,160
the ussr and stalin collected all of it

1231
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:24,319
he had piles of information from the

1232
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:26,800
united states paid them based on roswell

1233
00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:28,480
incident and probably something else

1234
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:30,839
we don't even know about and he

1235
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:32,240
collected

1236
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,960
soviet top soviet academicians and

1237
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,880
people like sergey karalov father of the

1238
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,480
soviet space science

1239
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:40,800
former prisoner of soviet concentration

1240
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,160
camps too

1241
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:45,200
and stalin asked him to give his opinion

1242
00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:46,880
his assessment

1243
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:50,319
after he spends a few days secluded with

1244
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:53,359
translators uh in kremlin in the kremlin

1245
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:55,280
he wasn't allowed to go back home

1246
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:56,960
looking to the pile of documents they

1247
00:46:01,990 --> 00:45:59,040
brought from the united states

1248
00:46:02,309 --> 00:46:02,000
and this was being translated uh live to

1249
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:02,319
to

1250
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:05,200
uh karate off and this was a very

1251
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:06,880
interesting person we'll speak about him

1252
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:07,440
more

1253
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:10,560
anyway his assessment was yes ufos

1254
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:13,599
exist based on what you told me i know

1255
00:46:17,349 --> 00:46:14,000
what i'm

1256
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:17,359
what is in this file and no there are no

1257
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:20,000
they're not a danger to our armed forces

1258
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:23,359
this is what stalin wanted to know

1259
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:24,720
that's really something because that's

1260
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:27,119
what it always that's always the bottom

1261
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:28,640
line

1262
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:30,560
um yeah you know wherever you're talked

1263
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:31,680
about are there a danger

1264
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:34,079
no they don't appear to be a danger

1265
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:35,839
which is really fascinating

1266
00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:39,440
um just observers i think

1267
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,119
um what about sometimes more

1268
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:45,040
that's true a matter of fact uh i

1269
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,319
believe on your uf

1270
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,560
or your youtube channel you talk about

1271
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,240
um people being

1272
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:52,800
hurt by ufos we can mention that

1273
00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:54,880
something along that line right

1274
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:58,960
well yeah injured detrimental effects

1275
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:01,599
and so forth yes that happened too and

1276
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:02,400
uh

1277
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:06,400
up because to me it seems like there are

1278
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:07,839
two different forces

1279
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,680
out here one is benign and one is not so

1280
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,760
benign maybe if we're lucky it's

1281
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:15,359
indifferent but if you start

1282
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,880
interfering they will they will destroy

1283
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,800
those who try to interfere which happen

1284
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:22,319
a few times in the soviet

1285
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:23,839
in the history of the soviet armed

1286
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:25,680
forces okay

1287
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:27,920
and when they were losing aircraft when

1288
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:30,800
they tried to approach gigantic

1289
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:33,920
disks in the sky or other objects

1290
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:38,079
and uh but benign forces my native kiev

1291
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:40,880
in ukraine and for example and not too

1292
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:42,880
far away from a chernobyl

1293
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:46,319
well during the 1986 chernobyl

1294
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,000
catastrophe or a disaster it was a ufo

1295
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,720
that was cited right there on the spot

1296
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:54,319
during the explosion in the fourth

1297
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,280
reactor

1298
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:57,680
that actually diminished the effects of

1299
00:48:03,270 --> 00:47:59,760
the explosion by a directed

1300
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:03,280
array of energy and this was confirmed

1301
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:03,920
by

1302
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,599
ukrainian soviet um technicians

1303
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,760
and those present on site and we have

1304
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:11,839
their names and our books too

1305
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:14,000
that's very interesting that's one

1306
00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:16,079
ecology in the soviet union

1307
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:18,319
what the communists did to to russian

1308
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:21,040
ecology or ukrainian ecology whatever

1309
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,359
it's horrible and because there was no

1310
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:25,520
control over over their actions

1311
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:28,480
and it will take modern russia probably

1312
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:28,880
a

1313
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:40,400
most

1314
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:43,280
um contaminated areas be it in the

1315
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:45,280
arctic where soviet submarines

1316
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:48,000
uh were put down and you know when and

1317
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:49,119
nuclear

1318
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:52,640
out

1319
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:56,240
or in the urls or in the lake

1320
00:49:03,349 --> 00:48:59,680
sarees for example where it's in central

1321
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,359
asia where there could be a

1322
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:06,240
horrible disaster if the if the waters

1323
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:07,040
from the lake

1324
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:10,240
start pouring down into other countries

1325
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:10,960
down below

1326
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:14,640
i mean many cases and this gives me some

1327
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:15,280
kind of

1328
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:17,920
hope that at least there is a force out

1329
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:19,520
there that's trying to repair what we

1330
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:24,950
yeah we yeah and that seems to be a

1331
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:25,839
message

1332
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:30,960
people that claim they're getting

1333
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:33,599
telepathy is about how we're taking care

1334
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:34,400
of our planet

1335
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:37,040
seems to be a common theme a common

1336
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:37,680
thread

1337
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:40,880
what was the first known uso

1338
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:44,559
in russia well uh you know there were

1339
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,800
in russia one of the most interesting

1340
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:48,400
cases that we present

1341
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:51,440
is the 1663 case it was

1342
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:53,920
you can say it was combined uso ufo

1343
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:55,520
which is always the case

1344
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,400
when an object was cited over the lake

1345
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,240
robozero

1346
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:02,319
there was a church service on the shore

1347
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:04,720
of the lake and this object kept coming

1348
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:09,119
in and out and changing its uh

1349
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:11,119
what should they say radiance it's like

1350
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:12,160
the thrusters

1351
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:14,800
you know working up this is and it was

1352
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,880
observed by a very capable

1353
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,200
person down below who wrote everything

1354
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:21,280
down and it scared people and they had

1355
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,559
biophysical effects

1356
00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:24,720
this was one of the first cases but you

1357
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:26,720
know if we're speaking about

1358
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:30,720
russia yakuta is part of russia

1359
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:33,119
and i've studied yakut legends and

1360
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:34,000
apples for

1361
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:36,079
for for years and they know me in

1362
00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:38,000
yakutia too because i brought up

1363
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:40,800
information about their cases and what's

1364
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:42,160
going on in their land

1365
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:45,200
well yakutian tribes are mentioned

1366
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:48,400
iron fish this was probably a thousand

1367
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:49,440
years ago

1368
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:52,160
iron fish in the waters of cold waters

1369
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,599
of the arctic ocean they called it

1370
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:55,280
something else of course not the

1371
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:58,160
arctic ocean but that's that's one plus

1372
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,720
we have

1373
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:00,880
interesting information from the

1374
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:03,839
siberian waters

1375
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:07,280
siberian rivers and the god that

1376
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:09,119
was worshiped by some people a very

1377
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,559
interesting god because

1378
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:12,319
if you look at the description of this

1379
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:14,480
deity you can see that it

1380
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:17,520
looks like an ancient uh uh

1381
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:21,200
astronaut sometimes of course uh

1382
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:22,640
you know you you start getting into

1383
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:25,440
local legends you find out quite a lot

1384
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:29,920
in karelia it's one thing um

1385
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,480
or if i speak about the baltic sea i in

1386
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:34,880
the book we present a case

1387
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:37,040
it's incredible case i hope somebody

1388
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:38,000
studies it more

1389
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:42,720
in the baltics in 1845 there was this

1390
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:45,680
fire that couldn't be put down in the

1391
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:46,960
baltic sea

1392
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:51,280
and it changed the actual aquatic

1393
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,760
landscape down below all of a sudden

1394
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:55,119
soil would come up and

1395
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:57,200
where the waters would become shallow

1396
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:00,079
and the it was a barn home island that

1397
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:02,400
was affected now what's interesting is

1398
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:03,520
that that year

1399
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,599
not not long before that there was a

1400
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,839
strange object celestial object flying

1401
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:09,599
in the sky and apparently crashing

1402
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:12,880
into the sea and the russian

1403
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:15,440
navy personnel who was sent to to to

1404
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,760
find out more about this fire

1405
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:20,319
they observed yeah it probably has

1406
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:22,079
something to do with the

1407
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:24,400
incredible floods experience about the

1408
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:25,280
same time

1409
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:28,480
in the baltic sea and uh with this

1410
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:29,119
strange

1411
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,839
object in the sky you know people talk

1412
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,119
about the baltic sea

1413
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:35,680
object down below quite a lot recently

1414
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,520
we don't know what it is still

1415
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:39,359
but here's something from the baltics

1416
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:40,960
and also in the book we bring a lot of

1417
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:41,680
case over

1418
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,280
dozens or more cases going back

1419
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:47,680
uh you know from time like there was a

1420
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:49,599
case from a small lake

1421
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:52,480
in karelia which is next to finland uh

1422
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:53,200
russian

1423
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,520
territory and the strange creatures

1424
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:57,359
observed by the lake and the expedition

1425
00:53:02,549 --> 00:52:58,800
center

1426
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:02,559
i hope it answers your questions um

1427
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:05,839
now what i thought the baltic

1428
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:08,000
the baltic sea i forget exactly what

1429
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,520
they call it baltic sea

1430
00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:11,920
ufo whatever i thought that was proven

1431
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,240
to be a rock formation do they

1432
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:16,480
they have not really uh ruled out that

1433
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:18,000
it's an unknown

1434
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,240
uh you know what i think that they the

1435
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:21,839
the people who found it

1436
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:23,200
keep saying that well there is something

1437
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,880
more to it and they want to have more

1438
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:26,240
expedition i think they're looking for

1439
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:27,040
money

1440
00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:29,280
i that's not my specialty of interest

1441
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,559
i'm more interested in rush

1442
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:32,880
cases and but what i think you should

1443
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:33,680
keep in mind

1444
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:35,520
more and more objects are being found

1445
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:36,800
now at the bottom of the

1446
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:38,720
of the sea and will because of the

1447
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:40,960
technology with you our new satellites

1448
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,240
can observe much more and uh

1449
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,079
i'm more interested to be honest in the

1450
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:48,319
for example yucatan peninsula

1451
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:51,359
i had the chance to be there twice you

1452
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,800
know with the

1453
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:54,960
time period of 17 years before between

1454
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:57,040
my visits but i did talk to local people

1455
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:58,160
i was doing

1456
00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:00,319
my own research while being there and i

1457
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,480
talked to local mexican authorities

1458
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:04,559
because i know that the soviets their

1459
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:07,040
submarines were

1460
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:09,119
operating in the area we don't know a

1461
00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:10,160
lot we just

1462
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:12,559
know some rumors some information came

1463
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:13,599
out that

1464
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:17,280
they observed under the water

1465
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:20,160
roads incredible roads leading from the

1466
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:22,960
yucatan peninsula into the sea

1467
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:25,119
and maybe a few interesting structures

1468
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,319
and you know recently there was

1469
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:28,079
information about discoveries in the

1470
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:29,200
yucatan

1471
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:32,319
uh ancient maya

1472
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:35,440
ruins and more more and more and there

1473
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:37,200
are things in the jungle that

1474
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:39,200
hopefully being protected by the local

1475
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:41,359
authorities from smugglers

1476
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:44,720
we don't know about yeah wow

1477
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,480
okay well it's time for us to go into

1478
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:48,720
break so hang on we'll be

1479
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:55,990
so i put this story together through

1480
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:58,319
research that i did on the euphoric.org

1481
00:55:02,710 --> 00:54:58,880
website

1482
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,720
as i was going down 75 i noticed what i

1483
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:04,559
thought was a big shooting star

1484
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:07,599
all the reports lead from california all

1485
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:09,119
the way to cigna

1486
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:11,200
so i stopped and i said did you see what

1487
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:12,720
i saw and he said

1488
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:18,470
initially you would think from the

1489
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:19,760
description that they're reporting a

1490
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:21,440
fireball or a meteor until

1491
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:24,240
the thing stops then you get into head

1492
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:25,760
scratching territory

1493
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:27,839
i don't remember being apprehensive i

1494
00:55:33,829 --> 00:55:30,240
think i was stunned

1495
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:33,839
just stunned i mean here you've had

1496
00:55:49,150 --> 00:55:36,319
a fairly lengthy sighting again with

1497
00:56:18,870 --> 00:55:49,160
multiple witnesses

1498
00:56:25,030 --> 00:56:22,150
that uh clip that trailer i just played

1499
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:25,040
is uh called a ufo halloween and i

1500
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:26,319
thought it was just fitting because it's

1501
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:27,440
halloween today but

1502
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:30,160
that's a free uh short film about 16

1503
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,040
minutes long

1504
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:33,200
on youtube so you should check it out

1505
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:34,079
but anyway

1506
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:38,240
i'll bring my guest right back in

1507
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:41,520
so yes welcome back and

1508
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:45,760
paul so yeah this i i feel like i could

1509
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:47,440
we could talk for hours about this and

1510
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,200
i'm sure you probably could

1511
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:52,079
because it uh it's just so fascinating

1512
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:52,400
and

1513
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:55,760
you know there's if you are uh ever out

1514
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:56,960
on a boat or

1515
00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:00,000
out to sea or um

1516
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:02,240
like for instance you know just plain

1517
00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:04,400
swimming there's always like uh

1518
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:05,839
you know i've done a lot of diving in my

1519
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:08,079
life but uh i've never

1520
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,799
i never have like uh any type of fear or

1521
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:12,720
something like that but if i'm swimming

1522
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:13,839
on the surface

1523
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:15,440
it's always like a mystery of what's

1524
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:17,440
below you know you have no idea what's

1525
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:18,480
below you

1526
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:21,920
whether it's going to get you or not but

1527
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:24,480
so there are you know you talked earlier

1528
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:25,280
about this

1529
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,119
thing that looked like a great big gear

1530
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:29,040
or something under the water

1531
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:31,280
that is that's so fascinating but

1532
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:33,200
someone did ask in the chat room

1533
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:35,040
if you could elaborate more if you knew

1534
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:36,480
anything more about

1535
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:39,119
what were described as nine foot uh

1536
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:47,109
yeah yeah and and you know this one and

1537
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:47,920
they were see

1538
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:50,160
uh similar creatures were later seen in

1539
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,200
other uh

1540
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:53,200
water bodies of this uh of the soviet

1541
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:54,319
union but

1542
00:58:01,190 --> 00:57:58,400
nine feet tall humanoid like

1543
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:01,200
creatures who did not need any breathing

1544
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:04,240
apparatus while operating down below

1545
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:08,079
that's the description uh

1546
00:58:14,069 --> 00:58:11,599
not four legs not six uh arms humanoid

1547
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:14,079
which is you know like us which i think

1548
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,160
in my opinion uh most of the

1549
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:17,920
intelligent life in the universe will

1550
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:19,520
look like but that's

1551
00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:23,599
what what had been observed and

1552
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:25,839
again similar description from the

1553
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:27,280
sietka case

1554
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:31,760
uh that soviet scientist jeremy love

1555
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:34,559
who like a number of soviet scientists

1556
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:34,960
was

1557
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:38,319
not afraid to study ufology

1558
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:41,119
under different names of course and i i

1559
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:42,960
find it

1560
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:46,240
interesting and maybe it's shaming the

1561
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:48,160
united states scientists

1562
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:51,359
because here we had in the ussr

1563
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:54,160
under a totalitarian regime where

1564
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:57,680
ideology did not want you to study ufos

1565
00:59:01,750 --> 00:58:59,760
you still had scientists who were not

1566
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:01,760
afraid to go ahead

1567
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:05,520
and study ufos and some of them suffered

1568
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:08,559
some of them were demoted some lost jobs

1569
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:11,839
nevertheless like felix siegel or

1570
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:13,680
professor burdakov whom i had the

1571
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:15,359
privilege to know

1572
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:18,240
and he was a great soviet scientist

1573
00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:19,359
russian scientists

1574
00:59:25,589 --> 00:59:23,119
missiles space programs

1575
00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:25,599
had his own theories about comments

1576
00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:27,920
being used as spaceships by

1577
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:30,640
intelligence life somewhere and who

1578
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:33,119
asked questions about the phobos program

1579
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:34,319
and others

1580
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:36,880
and uh here was a scientist who was not

1581
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:38,960
afraid of what other scientists think

1582
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:39,760
about him

1583
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:42,960
or debunkers or other you know busy

1584
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:44,000
bodies

1585
00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:45,920
and we found out because of these people

1586
00:59:50,789 --> 00:59:47,119
so much and

1587
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:50,799
it's even burdakov he met with

1588
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:53,520
remember in 1982 i mentioned it a few

1589
00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:54,160
times

1590
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:58,559
now yeah same year professor bordakov

1591
01:00:02,309 --> 01:00:01,680
meets in moscow with great hermann

1592
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:02,319
albert

1593
01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:04,319
i say great because he was like

1594
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:05,680
tzelkowski

1595
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:09,359
into uh they were the

1596
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:12,880
the fathers of modern rocketry and

1597
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:15,359
basically space travel and they met in

1598
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:17,599
moscow in 1982 and they exchanged

1599
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:18,640
opinions

1600
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,760
and border cove outside of that was

1601
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:24,000
writing quite a lot about the phobos and

1602
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:25,440
others and he met with

1603
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:29,599
cosmonauts we have a whole chapter about

1604
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:31,599
ajaja in this book and i want

1605
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,480
i ask people to read it asha passed away

1606
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:36,000
in 2019

1607
01:00:40,829 --> 01:00:39,040
but before then he brought up incredible

1608
01:00:43,589 --> 01:00:40,839
amount of information

1609
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:43,599
vladimir and former submariner and

1610
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:45,200
because of him

1611
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:47,520
maybe we find out more about the navy

1612
01:00:52,309 --> 01:00:49,680
research because he was the one

1613
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:52,319
given a new job by the navy after the

1614
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:53,920
communist party

1615
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:56,480
fired him from his position for his

1616
01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:57,599
lectures

1617
01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:00,960
and his uh his daring

1618
01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:03,040
deeds to bring up more information about

1619
01:01:07,349 --> 01:01:04,640
ufos he was fired

1620
01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:07,359
so the navy hired him and gave him the

1621
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:08,319
job to write

1622
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:11,839
a scientific document on the

1623
01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:15,839
problems of uh such objects in the

1624
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:19,040
in in the waters uh this was incredible

1625
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:20,640
he got what he wanted

1626
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:22,480
uh i don't think he revealed till the

1627
01:01:26,309 --> 01:01:24,880
end everything that he personally

1628
01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:26,319
had experience he couldn't there were

1629
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,000
some secrets they couldn't

1630
01:01:33,109 --> 01:01:30,720
release but he uh personally observed a

1631
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:33,119
uso very unusual object

1632
01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:34,960
when he was aboard the civilian

1633
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:36,319
submarine

1634
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:39,680
in his younger years anyway here was a

1635
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:41,280
scientist who was active

1636
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:43,440
he helped create this you know the first

1637
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:45,280
soviet ufo organization

1638
01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:48,640
officially registered back in 1990

1639
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:51,680
and he was helped by a soviet cosmonaut

1640
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:53,280
pavel popovich

1641
01:02:00,069 --> 01:01:56,400
uh who also ukrainian and who

1642
01:02:00,470 --> 01:02:00,079
was instrumental in getting scientists

1643
01:02:03,029 --> 01:02:00,480
like

1644
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:03,039
ajazza and researchers protection from

1645
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:04,640
those who wanted to harm them

1646
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:07,839
so to say in the soviet union and uh

1647
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,640
pavel popovich was the one who received

1648
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:12,480
the kgb documents

1649
01:02:17,029 --> 01:02:16,160
on ufos back in 1991. we had other

1650
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:17,039
scientists like

1651
01:02:21,510 --> 01:02:20,160
academic traits who was actually in

1652
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:21,520
charge of a

1653
01:02:27,430 --> 01:02:24,640
somewhat civilian program to get

1654
01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:27,440
information from the population and ufos

1655
01:02:30,309 --> 01:02:29,200
see the military program secret military

1656
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:30,319
program was not enough

1657
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:32,400
they needed more information and because

1658
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:34,640
of that you can see in the book

1659
01:02:38,789 --> 01:02:37,359
based on what we found out uh findings

1660
01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:38,799
of that program

1661
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:42,079
ufos and usos in the arctic ocean

1662
01:02:48,309 --> 01:02:46,000
other areas or we speak about scientists

1663
01:02:49,029 --> 01:02:48,319
vladimir lukin who was in charge of the

1664
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:49,039
antarctic

1665
01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:51,920
expeditions and was very instrumental in

1666
01:02:55,190 --> 01:02:52,960
the arctic

1667
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:55,200
uh research for the soviet academy of

1668
01:02:59,910 --> 01:02:56,240
scientists

1669
01:03:02,069 --> 01:02:59,920
sciences he had he himself

1670
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:02,079
observed the ufo in the arctic he

1671
01:03:05,029 --> 01:03:04,000
another scientist and he was not afraid

1672
01:03:08,069 --> 01:03:05,039
to speak so

1673
01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:08,079
so he came to the editorial offices of

1674
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:11,359
the russian animalia newspaper in 1997

1675
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:15,200
he sat down and he told them of his

1676
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:16,319
experiences

1677
01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:18,640
i cannot see anything similar in the

1678
01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:21,680
united states i don't understand why

1679
01:03:25,109 --> 01:03:23,520
i see something similar like that in

1680
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:25,119
china where

1681
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:27,760
you know billions of yuans go for such

1682
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:28,559
research

1683
01:03:34,470 --> 01:03:31,760
and who knows how many groups exist

1684
01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:34,480
in china to study ufos but it's all

1685
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:36,240
government research

1686
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:38,319
of course you know very little of it is

1687
01:03:42,069 --> 01:03:39,280
review

1688
01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:42,079
released but still it goes on i remember

1689
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:44,480
how curious the chinese were

1690
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:46,559
when i gave a lecture in hong kong

1691
01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:48,960
speaking about soviet ufology russian

1692
01:03:52,069 --> 01:03:49,920
cases

1693
01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:52,079
they're very interested in this stuff

1694
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:52,960
and i think

1695
01:03:57,750 --> 01:03:56,319
nobody nobody belittles ufo researchers

1696
01:04:00,870 --> 01:03:57,760
like you see here

1697
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:00,880
you have semi-literate journalists in

1698
01:04:05,589 --> 01:04:03,760
in our media you know who put down

1699
01:04:08,870 --> 01:04:05,599
serious people who do research

1700
01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:08,880
if you compare bruce mcabee to cnn

1701
01:04:13,029 --> 01:04:09,680
reporters

1702
01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:13,039
there is no comparison in you know but

1703
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:15,760
yet they put make fun of ufo researchers

1704
01:04:20,230 --> 01:04:17,200
or debunkers that

1705
01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:20,240
you know that come out every time some

1706
01:04:25,430 --> 01:04:22,400
interesting information comes outside

1707
01:04:28,789 --> 01:04:25,440
this happened to me in 1993

1708
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:28,799
i was able to get a story published uh

1709
01:04:35,349 --> 01:04:31,920
an article in omni magazine

1710
01:04:37,109 --> 01:04:35,359
about soviet ufo researchers a russian

1711
01:04:37,349 --> 01:04:37,119
ufo researchers at the time and how we

1712
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:37,359
know

1713
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:39,839
we should help them and bring bridges of

1714
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:41,920
course i was attacked immediately

1715
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:43,440
we should have published information

1716
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:46,160
like that into what the hell this is not

1717
01:04:48,710 --> 01:04:47,359
soviet union

1718
01:04:50,390 --> 01:04:48,720
what do you mean you cannot publish

1719
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:50,400
information like this

1720
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:54,160
but i want in my uh interviews i was

1721
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:54,960
want to bring up

1722
01:04:59,349 --> 01:04:58,319
one fact american debunkers their books

1723
01:05:02,950 --> 01:04:59,359
were published

1724
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:02,960
very much in great numbers in the soviet

1725
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:04,799
union donald manziel

1726
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:08,400
you know you at one on one point ufos

1727
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:10,079
were considered to be

1728
01:05:16,710 --> 01:05:13,440
uh ideological creation of the bourgeois

1729
01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:16,720
society how to to fool

1730
01:05:19,990 --> 01:05:18,640
innocent soviet people at the other hand

1731
01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:20,000
donald manziel and his books are

1732
01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:20,640
published

1733
01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:23,839
you know so that's what the world will

1734
01:05:29,829 --> 01:05:25,280
live in

1735
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:29,839
wow amazing really amazing uh as far as

1736
01:05:36,630 --> 01:05:33,359
when someone has actually witnessed

1737
01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:36,640
a uso under the water do they see any

1738
01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:39,039
type of propulsion

1739
01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:40,640
anything that makes them i mean do they

1740
01:05:45,109 --> 01:05:42,400
see you know like

1741
01:05:45,910 --> 01:05:45,119
for instance if there's a a submarine

1742
01:05:48,549 --> 01:05:45,920
underwater

1743
01:05:49,349 --> 01:05:48,559
in the propeller moves uh you'll see

1744
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:49,359
like a

1745
01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:51,599
swirl behind it you know there's there's

1746
01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:52,960
you can tell what's

1747
01:05:56,470 --> 01:05:55,599
propelling it forward is there any type

1748
01:06:01,109 --> 01:05:56,480
of propulsion

1749
01:06:05,190 --> 01:06:03,670
there was a no there are different

1750
01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:05,200
descriptions in the book of different

1751
01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:06,559
cases from the red sea

1752
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:09,119
to indian ocean that we present that

1753
01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:10,799
describe ufos

1754
01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:12,559
uh you know are objects that go in and

1755
01:06:15,910 --> 01:06:13,920
out of the water

1756
01:06:18,069 --> 01:06:15,920
in different ways and they have

1757
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:18,079
different uh characteristics to them but

1758
01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:19,920
what's interesting that

1759
01:06:26,230 --> 01:06:23,039
most of the objects based on my analysis

1760
01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:26,240
do not have any external thrusters or

1761
01:06:30,390 --> 01:06:27,760
equipment that needs to

1762
01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:30,400
to move them along so to say and i i we

1763
01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:32,559
present a case about when i say we

1764
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:34,960
philip mental i want to bring up his

1765
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:36,240
contribution

1766
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:38,640
he's a great british researcher of

1767
01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:39,520
ufology

1768
01:06:46,069 --> 01:06:42,880
and my co-author anyway there is a case

1769
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:46,079
of the soviet submarine that

1770
01:06:49,750 --> 01:06:48,640
uh that surfaced not too far away from

1771
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:49,760
the united states

1772
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:52,559
and they observed a gigantic cigar-like

1773
01:06:55,589 --> 01:06:53,599
object

1774
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:55,599
in the sky and this was no american

1775
01:07:00,789 --> 01:06:57,760
airship they knew it was much larger

1776
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:00,799
well it had no rudders it had nothing

1777
01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:04,000
in it it was just a cigar shaped body it

1778
01:07:07,589 --> 01:07:06,960
yes it it emitted light and so forth and

1779
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:07,599
then

1780
01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:10,160
a radar did not register it but it went

1781
01:07:14,549 --> 01:07:11,839
down into the waters

1782
01:07:15,589 --> 01:07:14,559
and uh into and down below and it

1783
01:07:17,670 --> 01:07:15,599
disappeared

1784
01:07:19,029 --> 01:07:17,680
so you have objects that can come out

1785
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:19,039
from the waters into

1786
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:22,400
become ufos and then go down become usos

1787
01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:26,240
others um i i remember that we put uh

1788
01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:27,200
recollections

1789
01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:31,119
of um for example late uh

1790
01:07:37,270 --> 01:07:34,400
krepiva who was ukrainian um

1791
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:37,280
former submariner and i knew him also we

1792
01:07:42,870 --> 01:07:39,200
exchanged a lot of information and

1793
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:42,880
he mentioned lectures that he attended

1794
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:45,440
by submarine officers and they talked

1795
01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:46,960
about this and this subject but

1796
01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:49,280
always they started speaking about most

1797
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:50,160
interesting

1798
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:52,319
the strange objects they saw down below

1799
01:07:57,670 --> 01:07:54,160
this was during the soviet times

1800
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:57,680
gigantic objects movable at incredible

1801
01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:58,480
speeds

1802
01:08:02,069 --> 01:08:00,079
rising up they could see them in

1803
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:02,079
periscopes at incredible

1804
01:08:07,109 --> 01:08:05,200
velocity through the waters and no there

1805
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:07,119
was nothing that you could really make

1806
01:08:13,990 --> 01:08:10,160
out on such you could and we

1807
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:14,000
and i translated with my new detail

1808
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:18,080
objects that had strange shapes on them

1809
01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:21,600
or protruding parts

1810
01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:24,640
and i i try to

1811
01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:27,040
to give as much information as possible

1812
01:08:30,390 --> 01:08:28,239
and uh you will

1813
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:30,400
you will see a great variety we are not

1814
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:32,640
dealing just with one

1815
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,239
type of ufos usos or one type of

1816
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:38,400
beings on this planet this is based on

1817
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:39,759
my research

1818
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:43,120
and i i want to bring to your attention

1819
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:46,080
ancient legends of the tunnels that go

1820
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:48,000
around the world and connect different

1821
01:08:53,110 --> 01:08:48,880
parts

1822
01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:53,120
getting more and more into that

1823
01:08:58,870 --> 01:08:56,159
um situation finding out more like

1824
01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:58,880
lake baikal the legends have it that

1825
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:01,040
it's connected with other parts of the

1826
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,319
um of the planet with uh tunnels

1827
01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:06,799
uh that and it has a life that other

1828
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:08,000
lakes do not have

1829
01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:10,640
or um we should speak about the indian

1830
01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:12,080
ocean because uh

1831
01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:15,279
this may be one of the most interesting

1832
01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:18,159
areas for uso research there's not a lot

1833
01:09:21,749 --> 01:09:19,279
of great story

1834
01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:21,759
a lot of stories but there are some

1835
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:23,359
about the indian notion

1836
01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:25,199
what's interesting should be interesting

1837
01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:27,040
to your listeners and we bring it up in

1838
01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:27,679
the book

1839
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:30,719
is that um audience is that

1840
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:34,159
pablo papovich the cosmonaut i mentioned

1841
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:37,920
before he and other cosmonauts

1842
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:40,480
had some kind of source of information

1843
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:41,359
that

1844
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:44,080
they ref they could use as reference

1845
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:45,040
speaking about

1846
01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:48,719
ancient visitations of our planet

1847
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:51,679
by sentient beings from elsewhere it's

1848
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:52,880
like ancient aliens

1849
01:09:59,189 --> 01:09:56,880
okay and um he even goes into

1850
01:10:00,310 --> 01:09:59,199
more deeper into in indications and he

1851
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:00,320
mentions that

1852
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:04,000
there are there are three bases

1853
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:06,800
on our planet of such beings and he

1854
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:07,600
mentioned to

1855
01:10:12,390 --> 01:10:09,760
other locations but one of them is the

1856
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:12,400
bottom of the indian ocean

1857
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:15,600
and you will see from the cases we

1858
01:10:19,350 --> 01:10:16,960
presented

1859
01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:19,360
that most of the cases do not take place

1860
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:20,880
in the indian oceans

1861
01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:24,320
but those they do are very interesting

1862
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:27,440
i will never forget this in 1976 there

1863
01:10:32,390 --> 01:10:29,120
is a case in the book

1864
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:32,400
how the soviet crew of the soviet

1865
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:35,440
ship they were scared to death

1866
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:38,960
by these gigantic wheels

1867
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:41,120
under the water or light that was

1868
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:44,800
circulating around them for a long time

1869
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:45,600
and this was

1870
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:47,840
actually published i believe in two

1871
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:49,679
soviet publications

1872
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:52,800
including 1970s newspaper

1873
01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:54,800
do you understand how serious the case

1874
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:56,239
was that the soviets

1875
01:11:01,510 --> 01:10:59,199
published about it uh too they didn't

1876
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:01,520
say it was aliens or something else but

1877
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:03,280
that's the indian notion for you and

1878
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:04,719
that's one of the least

1879
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:07,760
explored territories but the more we

1880
01:11:11,830 --> 01:11:09,280
find out

1881
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,840
the more we have capabilities like in

1882
01:11:16,709 --> 01:11:13,679
india not long ago they found an

1883
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:16,719
ancient seaport sea harbor

1884
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:19,360
i think about five or six years ago and

1885
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:19,760
uh

1886
01:11:25,590 --> 01:11:23,280
strange strange ruins connected to it

1887
01:11:27,669 --> 01:11:25,600
well i'm sure we'll find out more about

1888
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:27,679
you know by the arabian peninsula and so

1889
01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:28,640
forth

1890
01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:30,320
um that's very interesting and it brings

1891
01:11:34,950 --> 01:11:32,480
me back again to ancient

1892
01:11:36,870 --> 01:11:34,960
indian to mahabharata and the the

1893
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:36,880
confirmation we had

1894
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:40,239
of of those beings that the the

1895
01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:42,080
races that were fighting one each other

1896
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:43,679
in their mythology

1897
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:46,800
but the description of weapons and

1898
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:49,280
their presence down below under the

1899
01:11:51,669 --> 01:11:51,280
waters and where else they were present

1900
01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:51,679
in

1901
01:11:57,990 --> 01:11:54,960
they're present like uh

1902
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:58,000
you know him alliance territories and so

1903
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,400
forth

1904
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:00,880
and you will see the connections i made

1905
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,070
amazing uh now

1906
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:10,800
you know you think of uh you think of

1907
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:12,400
water as

1908
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:14,560
you know i mentioned it earlier that you

1909
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,400
know these things are seen to

1910
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:18,719
to travel between two mediums like it's

1911
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:20,239
no problem at all

1912
01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:22,239
but anything in water anything that

1913
01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:24,080
moves through water

1914
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:27,679
is so dense you know pushing it forward

1915
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:30,320
for uh even a submarine to do you know

1916
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:33,360
20 knots it takes a great deal of energy

1917
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:37,199
and uh how can someone even fathom

1918
01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:39,360
something that they see going 400 miles

1919
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:40,239
an hour

1920
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:43,120
in the water under the water i mean how

1921
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:44,320
can you even speculate

1922
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:46,480
how something can do that i don't know

1923
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:49,199
how can a living organism survive

1924
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:51,120
moving at such incredible speed and then

1925
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:53,679
stopping all of a sudden

1926
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,280
it's incredible but but again you know

1927
01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:59,360
you see recollections of submariners and

1928
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:00,480
i went through

1929
01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:02,880
i went to two forums where russian

1930
01:13:06,149 --> 01:13:04,000
submariners and former

1931
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:06,159
soviets exchanged information and very

1932
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:08,560
bright people you know very educated

1933
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:11,600
and that's how i got a lot of uh uh

1934
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:13,520
supporting information about the quakery

1935
01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:15,040
case that i mentioned those

1936
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:18,239
strange objects that soviet submarines

1937
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:19,199
encountered

1938
01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:22,400
and uh you know one of them recalled

1939
01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:24,159
uh how their submarine was hit by

1940
01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:25,679
something or

1941
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:27,600
another one recalled that in in the

1942
01:13:29,830 --> 01:13:29,120
waters where those quackery were

1943
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:29,840
observed

1944
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:33,120
um how one of them moved at incredible

1945
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:33,600
speed

1946
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:35,760
next to the to the submarines and they

1947
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:36,960
just couldn't

1948
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:38,880
the the scientists support the suburbs

1949
01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:40,320
couldn't understand

1950
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:43,520
how can living something living be

1951
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:44,640
aborted submarine

1952
01:13:47,750 --> 01:13:46,560
so maybe it's not a living organism

1953
01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:47,760
maybe it's being

1954
01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:50,880
uh manned by robots uh you know for

1955
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:51,440
example

1956
01:13:54,870 --> 01:13:53,360
we just don't know enough because nobody

1957
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:54,880
captured the submarine like that

1958
01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:58,159
it's impossible but i am

1959
01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:01,440
ex i am sure 100 that china

1960
01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:04,239
usa and russia at the very top level

1961
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:06,080
they have to exchange information like

1962
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:06,480
this

1963
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:09,840
and based on what russian uh researchers

1964
01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:13,360
um such as yuri stroganoff years ago

1965
01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:15,840
brought up that somehow information came

1966
01:14:19,990 --> 01:14:16,640
out that

1967
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:20,000
back from 1950s probably from 1956

1968
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:22,560
there has been cooperation between world

1969
01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:23,280
powers

1970
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:27,199
when it came to ufo research and

1971
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:30,480
they cannot neglect and uh

1972
01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:33,120
presence like this in the oceans no way

1973
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:35,120
i know the russian navy will not neglect

1974
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:35,679
it

1975
01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:38,400
and maybe the one of the reasons why uh

1976
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:40,960
putin is putting so much money

1977
01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:43,280
into the build-up of the navy is not so

1978
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:45,440
much any threat from the united states

1979
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:47,040
it's non-existent

1980
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:48,880
if you think about it you know you don't

1981
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:50,800
see a threat from russian navy

1982
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,320
to uh to to the american navy

1983
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:56,480
china well you can speculate about the

1984
01:14:59,590 --> 01:14:57,440
south

1985
01:15:00,790 --> 01:14:59,600
sea islands this and that but they also

1986
01:15:02,630 --> 01:15:00,800
do joint trainings

1987
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:02,640
i think once in a while with other

1988
01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:06,080
countries so i don't want to be naive

1989
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:08,080
about the subject but also i don't want

1990
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:10,000
to over emphasize something that

1991
01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:14,080
doesn't exist um it's

1992
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:18,159
i want you to look on land in the sky

1993
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:21,520
and underwater things are happening our

1994
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:24,480
governments are trying to build up

1995
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,679
defense systems they know why

1996
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:29,760
for example look at the space force

1997
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:31,679
creations that president trump

1998
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:34,480
recently did in the united states and

1999
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:35,280
this is

2000
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:37,280
you know following the soviet union and

2001
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:39,920
russia after decades they had it

2002
01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:43,360
from 1960s on and they have very capable

2003
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:44,320
young people

2004
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:47,120
young scientists who operate uh space

2005
01:15:51,910 --> 01:15:48,080
forces

2006
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:51,920
and all you know all the technical

2007
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:54,640
needs necessary for new satellites and

2008
01:15:57,350 --> 01:15:55,760
so forth

2009
01:15:59,590 --> 01:15:57,360
they know there is something in the sky

2010
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:59,600
i remember in my one of my videos about

2011
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:01,040
the russian space forces

2012
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:05,040
i mentioned that in 1970 and sorry 2017

2013
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:08,480
they had about 600 000 cases

2014
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:11,840
of objects coming into the atmosphere

2015
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:15,600
from outer space that they're studying

2016
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:18,880
yeah 600 and then now you have the

2017
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:20,719
united states active

2018
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:24,480
you have china which is extremely active

2019
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:25,040
and i

2020
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:27,040
pay attention to what they do on the

2021
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:29,760
dark side of the moon

2022
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:32,719
furthermore i mentioned that's my

2023
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:33,760
separate research

2024
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:36,000
how china is going to land on one of the

2025
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:36,960
asteroids

2026
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:39,280
where supposedly there could be

2027
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:40,800
observation stations

2028
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:43,600
by so-called aliens of our planet it's

2029
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,719
going to happen

2030
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:47,040
i believe in a few in 2024 if i'm not

2031
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:48,159
mistaken

2032
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:52,560
um and china is building up underwater

2033
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,679
scientific facilities they're not shy

2034
01:17:01,110 --> 01:16:57,600
about it they they you know they

2035
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:01,120
definitely bring for this information so

2036
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:02,800
i don't think the united states will be

2037
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:05,520
far behind and russian scientists are

2038
01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:08,800
uh working on getting uh ever more

2039
01:17:13,430 --> 01:17:12,320
deeper into the uh for example ariana

2040
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:13,440
strange

2041
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:16,800
so you know you have similar efforts uh

2042
01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:18,800
all over now they don't always work

2043
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:20,640
together sometimes it's easier to get

2044
01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:22,159
funding from a congress

2045
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:24,719
or duma russian parliament when you say

2046
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:25,840
well the other ones

2047
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,760
they're building up weapons we need to

2048
01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:30,000
to to do something similar

2049
01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:33,520
that's how they get research money but

2050
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:35,440
more and more more and more developments

2051
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:37,360
are taking place

2052
01:17:41,669 --> 01:17:39,360
yeah that's amazing it would be great i

2053
01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:41,679
mean it seems like it would be

2054
01:17:44,709 --> 01:17:43,760
a goal where countries could work

2055
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:44,719
together

2056
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:47,280
and try to solve the mystery you know

2057
01:17:51,189 --> 01:17:49,280
it'd be good for everybody

2058
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:51,199
it will be great of course but you know

2059
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:53,280
you cannot in the united nations is not

2060
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:54,800
something you can count on

2061
01:17:58,149 --> 01:17:57,040
and uh somehow they have to work

2062
01:18:00,390 --> 01:17:58,159
together but

2063
01:18:02,310 --> 01:18:00,400
you you know people ask me sometimes

2064
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:02,320
well what's going to happen if aliens

2065
01:18:06,790 --> 01:18:04,000
land or how would

2066
01:18:09,430 --> 01:18:06,800
look we have so many diverse cultures on

2067
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:09,440
this planet we have so many religions

2068
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:12,960
so many beliefs and

2069
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:15,679
you know it's it's hard to explain to

2070
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:17,040
some of them

2071
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:20,080
um what can happen what would happen

2072
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:22,800
if and developments that have happened

2073
01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:24,239
and it's too bad because

2074
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:26,400
their beliefs will come in conflict with

2075
01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:28,800
the with the fact that we are not

2076
01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:32,080
alone in this universe and

2077
01:18:36,790 --> 01:18:35,280
more than that you know you know we we

2078
01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:36,800
have had cases

2079
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:40,080
and uh legends and stories

2080
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:43,679
of visitations in our past

2081
01:18:48,149 --> 01:18:45,280
there are very interesting facts to

2082
01:18:51,189 --> 01:18:48,159
confirm it and it's in the ancient

2083
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:51,199
writings of india and china and

2084
01:18:54,550 --> 01:18:53,280
in russia you can find cases like that

2085
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:54,560
as well

2086
01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:57,600
but you can't escape it look in in

2087
01:19:03,030 --> 01:18:59,600
southern california for example

2088
01:19:03,430 --> 01:19:03,040
you have catalina island a few few few

2089
01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:03,440
people

2090
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:06,640
in southern california realize the the

2091
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:09,520
the scope of ufo sightings in the area

2092
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:11,360
and usos

2093
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:13,760
and even less people understand that

2094
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:14,800
this was a

2095
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:17,920
forbidden territory in world war ii uh

2096
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,960
for uh american uh special american

2097
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:22,719
forces were being trained on the island

2098
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:24,640
who knows what else was happening

2099
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:26,880
well there are different stories uh

2100
01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:28,080
about this place

2101
01:19:31,430 --> 01:19:30,560
or or some people talk about malibu and

2102
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:31,440
unusual

2103
01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:33,520
sightings in this area but you go

2104
01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:34,880
forward you go

2105
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:37,920
on like northern california or or or

2106
01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:41,120
oregon i remember years ago there was a

2107
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:44,000
story that i kept from a local newspaper

2108
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:47,280
probably in early 1990s about this

2109
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:50,560
unusual noise that was uh

2110
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:53,040
recorded coming from from you know down

2111
01:19:56,470 --> 01:19:55,040
below from the ocean

2112
01:19:58,470 --> 01:19:56,480
pacific ocean and they couldn't

2113
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:58,480
understand what it was and i think they

2114
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:00,800
have they never came to the conclusion

2115
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:03,600
what it really was but such noises are

2116
01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:04,560
heard

2117
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:07,760
not only in in the american waters

2118
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:10,960
in other areas too and very

2119
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:13,120
very unusual phenomena and i want to be

2120
01:20:18,149 --> 01:20:15,120
straightforward with your audience

2121
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:18,159
in my opinion more than 70

2122
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:21,360
of what has been cited is military what

2123
01:20:24,790 --> 01:20:22,880
you see is what military maybe don't

2124
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:24,800
want you to see but it's military tests

2125
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:28,000
in the atmosphere that's what ufos are

2126
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:30,719
another let's say let's give it 10 or

2127
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:31,120
more

2128
01:20:35,189 --> 01:20:33,760
that's probably inexplicable natural

2129
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:35,199
phenomena we just don't know how to

2130
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:36,880
explain it

2131
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,159
five to ten percent i real ufo

2132
01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:42,560
cases that we may be dealing with most

2133
01:20:46,310 --> 01:20:43,760
likely are

2134
01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:46,320
with advanced extraterrestrial

2135
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:47,520
civilization

2136
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:50,560
or manifestation of an ancient

2137
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:51,840
civilization

2138
01:20:55,830 --> 01:20:54,000
that is active on our planet that says

2139
01:20:59,189 --> 01:20:55,840
we don't know too much about

2140
01:21:02,149 --> 01:20:59,199
but obviously an advanced presence

2141
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:02,159
it can be found in in legends it can be

2142
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:03,760
found most likely

2143
01:21:10,229 --> 01:21:06,960
in the underwater territories or

2144
01:21:12,149 --> 01:21:10,239
in the tunnels under asia for example

2145
01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:12,159
i've heard rumors about south america i

2146
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:15,280
am don't know enough but i do know

2147
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:19,040
about tibet about

2148
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:21,760
mongolia an area i very much like to

2149
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:22,400
research

2150
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:25,040
and we have cases from mongolia in the

2151
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:25,600
book

2152
01:21:29,590 --> 01:21:28,080
mongolia also has lakes and very

2153
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:29,600
interesting cases

2154
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:32,880
and i always bring forward

2155
01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:36,480
uh information from ivan iframa

2156
01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:41,360
who was a great soviet russian scientist

2157
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:44,639
he was a genius in many ways and he was

2158
01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:45,360
described

2159
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:48,000
as a person out of bounds of space and

2160
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:48,800
time

2161
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:51,840
by his american friend in ucla

2162
01:21:57,669 --> 01:21:55,600
a professor ivany fremont

2163
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:57,679
brought forth incredible amounts of

2164
01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:00,159
information about ancient past

2165
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:03,040
and modern history and he was also the

2166
01:22:07,510 --> 01:22:04,000
one who

2167
01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:07,520
knew where to look for diamond

2168
01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:09,840
mines in siberia to the effect that the

2169
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:11,600
kgb started

2170
01:22:16,870 --> 01:22:14,800
started following him and very much

2171
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:16,880
interested in his persona

2172
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:19,360
iwan ephraimov was the one that

2173
01:22:22,229 --> 01:22:21,120
influenced many cosmonauts and people

2174
01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:22,239
like me

2175
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:24,320
with his beliefs in outer space

2176
01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:25,440
exploration and

2177
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:28,800
presence of um advanced

2178
01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:30,320
extraterrestrial civilizations

2179
01:22:34,149 --> 01:22:32,320
throughout the universe how they will

2180
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:34,159
work all together his books are

2181
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:35,600
incredible but

2182
01:22:39,750 --> 01:22:38,000
more than that he was in mongolia in

2183
01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:39,760
late 1940s

2184
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:42,800
in expeditions they're very curious

2185
01:22:47,030 --> 01:22:44,960
expeditions to find dinosaur bones but

2186
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:47,040
they found a few other things

2187
01:22:54,390 --> 01:22:50,480
including a skeleton of

2188
01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:54,400
a gigantic pink remember nine feet

2189
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:57,199
beings people ask me about the swimmers

2190
01:23:02,790 --> 01:22:58,000
where

2191
01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:02,800
his expedition to

2192
01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:06,080
exactly and it took them a while to

2193
01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:10,000
be able to get into the

2194
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:13,600
to to to to get actually into the cave

2195
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:15,840
i'm sorry into the grave of this strange

2196
01:23:18,950 --> 01:23:17,520
being that was uh

2197
01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:18,960
buried there for some reason nobody

2198
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:21,760
knows why and it was a very unusual

2199
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:24,480
skeleton of a nine-foot-like being

2200
01:23:29,990 --> 01:23:27,040
and the skeleton was given uh to the

2201
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:30,000
soviet archaeological expedition later

2202
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:32,320
because euframos still had to do things

2203
01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:33,360
in mongolia

2204
01:23:36,790 --> 01:23:34,560
but there were pictures that were

2205
01:23:38,790 --> 01:23:36,800
forbidden in the soviet union

2206
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:38,800
well i bring up as much as i can about

2207
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:40,159
him and

2208
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:43,040
uh again here is mongolia here's strange

2209
01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:45,280
things that are taking place there

2210
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:49,199
and we had nikolai rierich the great

2211
01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:53,440
russian painter and philosopher

2212
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:57,120
who most likely was a kgb agent for some

2213
01:24:02,870 --> 01:23:59,040
time during his expeditions

2214
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:02,880
in the area and he talked about

2215
01:24:08,950 --> 01:24:06,719
uh strange people that sometimes come

2216
01:24:10,709 --> 01:24:08,960
out from nowhere in mongolia from under

2217
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:10,719
the ground so to say

2218
01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:13,360
and they trade coins that nobody has

2219
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:14,480
ever seen before

2220
01:24:18,790 --> 01:24:18,000
so you start taking one part you know to

2221
01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:18,800
another

2222
01:24:22,229 --> 01:24:20,480
and i'll just finish off with one ear

2223
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:22,239
frame of because i want people to know

2224
01:24:25,430 --> 01:24:24,080
more and more about him

2225
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:25,440
he was considered to be an

2226
01:24:29,990 --> 01:24:28,080
extraterrestrial by the kgb

2227
01:24:31,189 --> 01:24:30,000
and when he died they raided his

2228
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:31,199
apartment

2229
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:33,280
they took away all his things and they

2230
01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:36,080
also wanted to take away the urn

2231
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:38,480
where his ashes were kept but his wife

2232
01:24:42,070 --> 01:24:39,440
taisia

2233
01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:42,080
iframawa put her foot down she was a

2234
01:24:45,350 --> 01:24:44,159
willful person and did not let the kgb

2235
01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:45,360
take it out

2236
01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:47,760
his case is still classified there are

2237
01:24:51,590 --> 01:24:48,400
forty

2238
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:51,600
four zero volumes pertaining to the

2239
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:52,960
investigation

2240
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:55,280
there is no more soviet union but his

2241
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:57,520
case is still you still cannot get

2242
01:25:01,750 --> 01:25:00,000
to those files and it's not safe to ask

2243
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:01,760
too many questions

2244
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:04,880
this person was a scientist a writer

2245
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:08,320
magnificent book more than that

2246
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:10,960
he knew about africa he knew about

2247
01:25:15,669 --> 01:25:13,760
others and

2248
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:15,679
knowledge that nobody knows how he came

2249
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:18,480
about because of him i made my own trip

2250
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:20,480
to africa many years ago

2251
01:25:24,310 --> 01:25:22,400
and did my own research in southwest

2252
01:25:27,189 --> 01:25:24,320
africa and i try to bring

2253
01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:27,199
more about namibia in my videos because

2254
01:25:30,229 --> 01:25:27,520
they

2255
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:30,239
also have very interesting lakes and

2256
01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:33,280
very interesting stories

2257
01:25:40,629 --> 01:25:36,960
wow that's that's totally fascinating um

2258
01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:40,639
you know going back to the usos

2259
01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:43,440
in general that you've researched uh i

2260
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:44,159
was thinking

2261
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:48,320
is there any um is there any

2262
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:52,239
convincing photographs ever taken or

2263
01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:55,360
film or sonar records that

2264
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:58,239
are available i mean has anyone ever

2265
01:26:03,270 --> 01:25:59,760
captured it anything

2266
01:26:05,110 --> 01:26:03,280
that's uh actually like evidence

2267
01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:05,120
look at the photographs in the book we

2268
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:06,960
have um several

2269
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:10,000
uh the latest one i think yes yes yes um

2270
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:12,000
especially when it comes to the

2271
01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:14,560
territory of

2272
01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:18,159
the united kingdom south georgia island

2273
01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:20,480
and soviet submarines and so-called

2274
01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:22,480
fishing fleet because

2275
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:24,400
they were doing other things there they

2276
01:26:29,750 --> 01:26:26,800
took photographs of the

2277
01:26:31,189 --> 01:26:29,760
strange objects in the sky over that

2278
01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:31,199
island i'm sure the british are

2279
01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:32,960
modest and don't want to talk about it

2280
01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:35,120
but soviets had to

2281
01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:38,080
describe the ufos they observed during

2282
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:38,719
their

2283
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:40,320
i'm sure espionage missions in the

2284
01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:41,840
waters of saint georgia

2285
01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:43,120
there are some other ones i think the

2286
01:26:49,669 --> 01:26:46,159
latest one we had a ukrainian case

2287
01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:49,679
uh from 2006 where black seed

2288
01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:51,760
you ask me about the black sea and how

2289
01:26:56,310 --> 01:26:53,600
they cite um

2290
01:26:57,910 --> 01:26:56,320
an object um it was a board uh i believe

2291
01:26:58,950 --> 01:26:57,920
it was it was a russian submarine but

2292
01:27:02,149 --> 01:26:58,960
the ukrainian

2293
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:02,159
scientist was present and uh

2294
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:04,800
not a photograph but i think um it's

2295
01:27:06,950 --> 01:27:05,520
what is it

2296
01:27:09,669 --> 01:27:06,960
i forgot but but what you will see it's

2297
01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:09,679
a photograph but uh um

2298
01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:12,239
with some other technology it's in the

2299
01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:12,880
book

2300
01:27:17,350 --> 01:27:16,080
um a few other illustrations i think one

2301
01:27:19,590 --> 01:27:17,360
of the most famous

2302
01:27:20,470 --> 01:27:19,600
soviet photograph taken of an object

2303
01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:20,480
that was

2304
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:23,600
um ascending from the waters next to the

2305
01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:24,320
soviet ship

2306
01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:27,280
it's there so whatever we were able to

2307
01:27:30,550 --> 01:27:28,960
collect and i got from

2308
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:30,560
from the former soviet union and so

2309
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:33,360
forth it's there and uh you know in my

2310
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:34,480
other research

2311
01:27:37,910 --> 01:27:36,560
in the youtube channel for example like

2312
01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:37,920
i said i get more

2313
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:40,080
i get photographs from modern russia or

2314
01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:41,120
or or

2315
01:27:44,830 --> 01:27:42,800
whatever other depictions we can get

2316
01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:44,840
sometimes videos too

2317
01:27:49,510 --> 01:27:49,120
um it's not you cannot keep things like

2318
01:27:52,870 --> 01:27:49,520
that

2319
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:52,880
under lead too much too much you cannot

2320
01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:55,120
and the time comes when people want to

2321
01:27:58,629 --> 01:27:56,080
know

2322
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:58,639
you i always bring somebody i really

2323
01:28:03,189 --> 01:27:59,360
respected

2324
01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:03,199
was our former president gerald ford

2325
01:28:07,189 --> 01:28:06,480
when he was a congressman and how he was

2326
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:07,199
adamant

2327
01:28:10,629 --> 01:28:09,600
about getting fourth information from

2328
01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:10,639
the u.s

2329
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:14,400
air force about cases in uh mid-1960s

2330
01:28:18,070 --> 01:28:15,040
there was

2331
01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:18,080
so many ufo cases here in the united

2332
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:18,880
states

2333
01:28:23,830 --> 01:28:21,760
but i compared them to cases in in

2334
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:23,840
soviet union central asia for example

2335
01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:24,960
during the horrible

2336
01:28:30,149 --> 01:28:28,719
earthquakes uh in tashkent

2337
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:30,159
you know about the same time but there

2338
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:32,080
are cases all over the world

2339
01:28:36,470 --> 01:28:35,280
and fascinating people uh people wrote

2340
01:28:38,629 --> 01:28:36,480
to me americans

2341
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:38,639
they say paul you know we you know you

2342
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:40,880
brought up this case in 1960s

2343
01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:43,120
1960s but this is what i saw when i was

2344
01:28:47,669 --> 01:28:44,480
a child

2345
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:47,679
in in chicago for example ufos over this

2346
01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:50,000
part uh i'll never forget it

2347
01:28:56,790 --> 01:28:53,920
and um you know people start exchanging

2348
01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:56,800
information well gerald ford brought

2349
01:29:01,189 --> 01:28:58,639
forth this information

2350
01:29:02,629 --> 01:29:01,199
and you know there were a few others

2351
01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:02,639
that

2352
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:05,199
bring photographs i'm sure they're

2353
01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:06,000
locked up

2354
01:29:10,870 --> 01:29:09,040
uh incredible photographs uh you know in

2355
01:29:13,510 --> 01:29:10,880
the archives of russia

2356
01:29:13,990 --> 01:29:13,520
and the united states and i am not sure

2357
01:29:16,709 --> 01:29:14,000
if

2358
01:29:17,510 --> 01:29:16,719
ever we will see them it's not for me or

2359
01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:17,520
you were to

2360
01:29:24,790 --> 01:29:20,880
decide but hopefully one day yeah

2361
01:29:26,790 --> 01:29:24,800
i i like uh you said earlier what you

2362
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:26,800
what your your thoughts were on what

2363
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:28,480
these things are

2364
01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:31,440
and that was interesting i had i i heard

2365
01:29:35,590 --> 01:29:32,639
many people talk about

2366
01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:35,600
you know the possible of the military is

2367
01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:36,719
possibly

2368
01:29:43,669 --> 01:29:40,560
you know a segment and the anomalies

2369
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:43,679
possibly a segment um and then the

2370
01:29:47,669 --> 01:29:44,719
possibility of

2371
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:47,679
of extraterrestrial and then i have

2372
01:29:51,189 --> 01:29:49,199
never heard anyone say

2373
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:51,199
what you said about the ancient part of

2374
01:29:53,750 --> 01:29:52,400
that that's the first time i've ever

2375
01:29:55,750 --> 01:29:53,760
heard anyone ever

2376
01:29:57,830 --> 01:29:55,760
bring that part into it i think that's

2377
01:30:00,629 --> 01:29:57,840
that's pretty interesting

2378
01:30:02,149 --> 01:30:00,639
absolutely i want i always want to to

2379
01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:02,159
give

2380
01:30:08,470 --> 01:30:07,920
soviet scientists who started speaking

2381
01:30:12,229 --> 01:30:08,480
about

2382
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:12,239
um so-called ancient uh alien hypothesis

2383
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:15,199
paleo contact that's paleo contact from

2384
01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:16,400
the ancient times that's what they

2385
01:30:20,310 --> 01:30:17,440
called it

2386
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:20,320
um and and were publishing as much of

2387
01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:21,760
their views as possible and

2388
01:30:26,709 --> 01:30:24,719
i bring up garbowsky uh in the book and

2389
01:30:30,149 --> 01:30:26,719
how much information he collected

2390
01:30:32,830 --> 01:30:30,159
uh alexander garbowsky or other writers

2391
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:32,840
um even um going back to alexander

2392
01:30:37,990 --> 01:30:34,560
kazansev who was

2393
01:30:39,990 --> 01:30:38,000
a soviet engineer who was the actual the

2394
01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:40,000
first one who started bringing

2395
01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:43,120
information about 1908 uh tangasqua

2396
01:30:48,310 --> 01:30:45,520
phenomenon as being an explosion

2397
01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:48,320
of an alien spaceship look he was well

2398
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:49,120
connected

2399
01:30:54,229 --> 01:30:51,360
he was never purged in the soviet union

2400
01:30:57,189 --> 01:30:54,239
in 1930s under stalin although

2401
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:57,199
he was in new york for a special exhibit

2402
01:31:00,070 --> 01:30:58,320
in 1939.

2403
01:31:02,070 --> 01:31:00,080
i forgot with the world exhibit

2404
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:02,080
something like that he was here

2405
01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:04,239
he had incredible connections because of

2406
01:31:08,149 --> 01:31:05,199
him

2407
01:31:09,590 --> 01:31:08,159
uh people like that kazansaf and his

2408
01:31:12,070 --> 01:31:09,600
beliefs in also

2409
01:31:12,790 --> 01:31:12,080
ancient civilizations coming to our

2410
01:31:16,149 --> 01:31:12,800
planet

2411
01:31:18,470 --> 01:31:16,159
that's how euphologists started in the

2412
01:31:22,470 --> 01:31:18,480
soviet union

2413
01:31:25,590 --> 01:31:22,480
under the guise of lectures about

2414
01:31:27,910 --> 01:31:25,600
the tangaska or this they could speak

2415
01:31:30,070 --> 01:31:27,920
start speaking about ufos back in 1940s

2416
01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:30,080
when stalin was of course still alive

2417
01:31:36,070 --> 01:31:33,440
that's one thing but we had others and

2418
01:31:37,110 --> 01:31:36,080
i gotta tell you well before western

2419
01:31:41,189 --> 01:31:37,120
writers

2420
01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:41,199
they expo they exposed information about

2421
01:31:46,950 --> 01:31:44,639
ancient aliens are civilians

2422
01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:46,960
even if well connected but then you had

2423
01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:48,320
pablo popovich

2424
01:31:53,189 --> 01:31:51,440
a cosmonaut who spoke about oli onoff

2425
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:53,199
another cosmonaut who recently passed

2426
01:31:57,510 --> 01:31:54,719
away i had nothing

2427
01:31:59,110 --> 01:31:57,520
but respect to him or whose his role was

2428
01:32:02,390 --> 01:31:59,120
very different

2429
01:32:05,270 --> 01:32:02,400
in ufo research than pablo popovich well

2430
01:32:06,870 --> 01:32:05,280
anyway although he did not believe in

2431
01:32:09,430 --> 01:32:06,880
the presence of any

2432
01:32:10,629 --> 01:32:09,440
so-called aliens anywhere in the solar

2433
01:32:13,910 --> 01:32:10,639
system

2434
01:32:17,590 --> 01:32:13,920
he nevertheless said that we know that

2435
01:32:23,030 --> 01:32:17,600
our planet was visited millennia ago

2436
01:32:24,950 --> 01:32:23,040
by advanced uh extraterrestrial beings

2437
01:32:26,470 --> 01:32:24,960
they were you know and it's not the only

2438
01:32:30,950 --> 01:32:26,480
one so this is very

2439
01:32:32,709 --> 01:32:30,960
interesting stuff and uh it brings up

2440
01:32:34,870 --> 01:32:32,719
we don't know what they discovered what

2441
01:32:36,790 --> 01:32:34,880
they had in their hands in my research i

2442
01:32:40,229 --> 01:32:36,800
always bring up information

2443
01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:40,239
by the way which professor burdakov

2444
01:32:45,430 --> 01:32:42,400
whom i mentioned before he talked about

2445
01:32:49,030 --> 01:32:45,440
it about the soviet scientists being

2446
01:32:51,669 --> 01:32:49,040
given an object back in early 1950s

2447
01:32:52,149 --> 01:32:51,679
to assess and to give their explanation

2448
01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:52,159
about

2449
01:32:56,629 --> 01:32:54,000
what is it that you're holding in your

2450
01:32:58,709 --> 01:32:56,639
hands top scientists

2451
01:33:00,870 --> 01:32:58,719
and they couldn't at the time well today

2452
01:33:04,550 --> 01:33:00,880
we know what a microchip looks like

2453
01:33:07,270 --> 01:33:04,560
but they didn't know back in early 1950s

2454
01:33:08,950 --> 01:33:07,280
i mean if if somebody told me this story

2455
01:33:12,629 --> 01:33:08,960
i would say okay where is the source

2456
01:33:15,669 --> 01:33:12,639
professor burdakov again who worked for

2457
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:15,679
32 years or more in the

2458
01:33:20,070 --> 01:33:19,199
space vehicle design bureau of sergey

2459
01:33:22,550 --> 01:33:20,080
karalov

2460
01:33:23,910 --> 01:33:22,560
who wasn't afraid to speak in you about

2461
01:33:27,270 --> 01:33:23,920
your force when he worked

2462
01:33:28,470 --> 01:33:27,280
in the pukawa observatory here's well

2463
01:33:32,070 --> 01:33:28,480
here's the source

2464
01:33:35,350 --> 01:33:32,080
and we had more kiev where i am from

2465
01:33:39,110 --> 01:33:35,360
had a very interesting case it was about

2466
01:33:42,310 --> 01:33:39,120
a so-called rocket which was discovered

2467
01:33:44,390 --> 01:33:42,320
for the second time back in 1940s it was

2468
01:33:47,590 --> 01:33:44,400
discovered before but then they

2469
01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:47,600
they did not want to excavate it uh

2470
01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:50,560
under the tsar's times they did they had

2471
01:33:54,629 --> 01:33:51,520
more

2472
01:33:55,669 --> 01:33:54,639
they didn't want to deal with something

2473
01:33:59,270 --> 01:33:55,679
they didn't understand

2474
01:34:02,629 --> 01:33:59,280
in 1946 there was no modesty

2475
01:34:06,470 --> 01:34:02,639
they uncovered a rocket ship like

2476
01:34:08,790 --> 01:34:06,480
object in kiev apparently they cut it in

2477
01:34:10,709 --> 01:34:08,800
several pieces they being whoever was in

2478
01:34:14,070 --> 01:34:10,719
charge of the expedition

2479
01:34:17,590 --> 01:34:14,080
and it was transferred to moscow what's

2480
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:17,600
interesting that according to

2481
01:34:21,510 --> 01:34:19,760
to the son of one of the um

2482
01:34:24,709 --> 01:34:21,520
archaeologists who worked into this

2483
01:34:25,430 --> 01:34:24,719
inside the inside that rocket ship there

2484
01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:25,440
were

2485
01:34:32,550 --> 01:34:28,960
writings similar to ancient sanskrit

2486
01:34:36,070 --> 01:34:32,560
the language of india wow

2487
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:36,080
this was and and still you know you

2488
01:34:41,430 --> 01:34:38,080
there's only very little information

2489
01:34:44,629 --> 01:34:41,440
about it but also in 1953 in kiev

2490
01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:44,639
there was a kgbx

2491
01:34:51,669 --> 01:34:48,400
operation to uncover a chest

2492
01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:51,679
which was also contained ancient

2493
01:34:56,229 --> 01:34:53,040
manuscripts

2494
01:34:56,870 --> 01:34:56,239
which described something like star wars

2495
01:35:00,310 --> 01:34:56,880
battles

2496
01:35:02,629 --> 01:35:00,320
okay in many languages and somebody who

2497
01:35:04,070 --> 01:35:02,639
was onside but was afraid to speak for

2498
01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:04,080
years about it

2499
01:35:08,950 --> 01:35:07,199
he spoke about it but i also had my own

2500
01:35:12,149 --> 01:35:08,960
separate research

2501
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:12,159
and this is in my videos about

2502
01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:15,600
armenia is involved but what happened is

2503
01:35:20,229 --> 01:35:18,480
during the um if you remember the

2504
01:35:23,510 --> 01:35:20,239
alexandria library

2505
01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:23,520
almost everything was burned by fanatics

2506
01:35:26,870 --> 01:35:26,320
all the books but not all there was a

2507
01:35:30,709 --> 01:35:26,880
manus

2508
01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:30,719
ancient mars

2509
01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:34,080
which only had one satellite not two

2510
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:37,840
one satellite and this was found its way

2511
01:35:41,590 --> 01:35:39,600
to armenia

2512
01:35:42,629 --> 01:35:41,600
in ancient times and there was a case of

2513
01:35:46,229 --> 01:35:42,639
the kgb

2514
01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:46,239
his hands

2515
01:35:51,669 --> 01:35:50,080
on the manuscript and it's a fascinating

2516
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:51,679
story i believe

2517
01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:53,760
i i give my conclusion but i think that

2518
01:35:56,870 --> 01:35:54,960
document is is

2519
01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:56,880
one of the most important archives in

2520
01:36:00,629 --> 01:35:58,560
armenia still today

2521
01:36:01,669 --> 01:36:00,639
and i give dates and more than that so

2522
01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:01,679
here is another one

2523
01:36:05,830 --> 01:36:03,760
but it takes you now to to another

2524
01:36:09,109 --> 01:36:05,840
territory which is fascinating

2525
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:09,119
and mars and it's two very interesting

2526
01:36:14,470 --> 01:36:11,040
satellites phobos

2527
01:36:16,390 --> 01:36:14,480
and demos and i know that

2528
01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:16,400
boss aldrin could give much more

2529
01:36:20,550 --> 01:36:18,400
information i'm sure than

2530
01:36:22,149 --> 01:36:20,560
than he gave recently speaking about

2531
01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:22,159
this strange monument

2532
01:36:29,109 --> 01:36:26,159
and phobos i know what the soviet

2533
01:36:30,149 --> 01:36:29,119
scientists knew based on my um

2534
01:36:32,709 --> 01:36:30,159
information from

2535
01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:32,719
professor burdekov and marina popovich i

2536
01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:34,880
met her in los angeles many years ago

2537
01:36:38,229 --> 01:36:37,040
and she gave me the photograph and a few

2538
01:36:41,270 --> 01:36:38,239
other

2539
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:41,280
information bits about the strange

2540
01:36:48,229 --> 01:36:45,040
demise of the soviet spacecraft in 1989

2541
01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:48,239
bottom line phobos most likely

2542
01:36:55,109 --> 01:36:51,600
is an artificial creation put

2543
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:55,119
in the orbit of mars who knows when

2544
01:36:58,470 --> 01:36:57,360
our governments know about it and they

2545
01:37:02,310 --> 01:36:58,480
are eager

2546
01:37:04,709 --> 01:37:02,320
to get to it some expeditions failed

2547
01:37:06,310 --> 01:37:04,719
like the joint western soviet expedition

2548
01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:06,320
in 1989

2549
01:37:12,229 --> 01:37:09,600
here's an example of joint efforts

2550
01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:12,239
another one failed it was this russian

2551
01:37:16,550 --> 01:37:13,360
chinese

2552
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:16,560
but more keep your eyes out on that part

2553
01:37:20,709 --> 01:37:19,840
of our you know of solar system because

2554
01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:20,719
phobos

2555
01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:23,280
is definitely something where we want to

2556
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:24,480
get to

2557
01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:25,840
and i think that i planned the

2558
01:37:29,030 --> 01:37:28,480
expedition for the next in the next five

2559
01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:29,040
years

2560
01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:30,719
because there is something on that

2561
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:32,639
moonlet that doesn't want

2562
01:37:40,629 --> 01:37:36,880
us to do tests on its surface

2563
01:37:43,189 --> 01:37:40,639
or maybe just being present in that part

2564
01:37:44,229 --> 01:37:43,199
i remember there's something about that

2565
01:37:46,070 --> 01:37:44,239
of that

2566
01:37:47,510 --> 01:37:46,080
it's like looks like a potato or

2567
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:47,520
something i remember

2568
01:37:51,350 --> 01:37:50,080
hearing about it's a strange-looking uh

2569
01:37:54,629 --> 01:37:51,360
moon

2570
01:37:55,109 --> 01:37:54,639
spooking it doesn't how come it has so

2571
01:37:58,790 --> 01:37:55,119
many

2572
01:38:00,149 --> 01:37:58,800
uh you know um traces of volcanic

2573
01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:00,159
activity but it cannot have

2574
01:38:04,550 --> 01:38:02,880
volcanoes it's it's a small object

2575
01:38:07,910 --> 01:38:04,560
listen to this

2576
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:07,920
many years ago professor shklovsky

2577
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:09,360
friend of carl sagan

2578
01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:12,480
in back in 1963 in the soviet union

2579
01:38:18,629 --> 01:38:15,760
he came out with a hypothesis that

2580
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:18,639
phobos and demos are artificial bodies

2581
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:19,199
and

2582
01:38:25,590 --> 01:38:24,719
i don't know i don't know under whose

2583
01:38:28,310 --> 01:38:25,600
presence

2584
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:28,320
pressure later but he was very adamant

2585
01:38:33,030 --> 01:38:29,520
about it

2586
01:38:37,030 --> 01:38:33,040
and he spoke about hollow inside of the

2587
01:38:40,390 --> 01:38:37,040
of that potato-like celestial body

2588
01:38:41,910 --> 01:38:40,400
not long ago european scientists i think

2589
01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:41,920
it was about four years ago

2590
01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:46,480
confirmed that phobos is a hollow body

2591
01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:49,600
it's like but it's the americans

2592
01:38:53,109 --> 01:38:52,320
also you know how it was discovered you

2593
01:38:57,109 --> 01:38:53,119
know let's put it

2594
01:39:01,189 --> 01:38:57,119
in italics discovered by an american

2595
01:39:03,189 --> 01:39:01,199
astronomer and for sure in 1976

2596
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:03,199
until then nobody knew about their

2597
01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:04,480
presence right

2598
01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:06,960
except jonathan swift knew about it and

2599
01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:09,119
in the travels of gulliver

2600
01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:12,800
he describes two moonlets of mars

2601
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:15,760
and if you have time your listeners they

2602
01:39:18,550 --> 01:39:17,520
should go back and read the description

2603
01:39:20,229 --> 01:39:18,560
of those strange

2604
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:20,239
moonlights and compare to what we know

2605
01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:22,880
about them today so here is this ancient

2606
01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:26,080
knowledge ancient knowledge that

2607
01:39:33,350 --> 01:39:29,679
somehow we get bits and pieces of it

2608
01:39:36,790 --> 01:39:33,360
but it's fascinating stuff

2609
01:39:39,910 --> 01:39:36,800
yes it's that is and you know i mean

2610
01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:39,920
if you want to speculate about say if

2611
01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:40,480
we've been

2612
01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:43,199
visited you know it wouldn't have

2613
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:45,679
anything to do with our development

2614
01:39:50,229 --> 01:39:48,480
and our time now if we're being visited

2615
01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:50,239
we could have been visited for

2616
01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:53,760
a million years or uh however long

2617
01:39:56,470 --> 01:39:55,280
you know there were species walking

2618
01:39:57,270 --> 01:39:56,480
around this planet we could have been

2619
01:39:59,669 --> 01:39:57,280
visited

2620
01:40:00,550 --> 01:39:59,679
because if there's another civilization

2621
01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:00,560
an intelligent

2622
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:02,560
civilization or many intelligence

2623
01:40:04,550 --> 01:40:04,000
civilizations out there and they're

2624
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:04,560
actually

2625
01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:06,960
figured out how to travel here it would

2626
01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:09,600
have nothing to do with our time now

2627
01:40:13,270 --> 01:40:12,480
because for our times to line up you

2628
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:13,280
know

2629
01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:15,840
doesn't really matter remember the euro

2630
01:40:19,189 --> 01:40:16,560
mountains

2631
01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:19,199
it's it's i always tell americans who

2632
01:40:23,510 --> 01:40:19,920
visit russia

2633
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:23,520
this it's a wonderful very picturesque

2634
01:40:30,109 --> 01:40:26,639
uh territory but it's full of mysteries

2635
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:30,119
and one of them is of the

2636
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:33,679
nanotechnology like objects found by

2637
01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:37,199
russian geologists back in

2638
01:40:42,070 --> 01:40:40,000
early 1990s and i know those people i

2639
01:40:44,709 --> 01:40:42,080
corresponded with some of them and i

2640
01:40:46,470 --> 01:40:44,719
um they sent photographs of those

2641
01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:46,480
objects

2642
01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:49,520
it's like something exploded in the

2643
01:40:53,109 --> 01:40:50,560
euros

2644
01:40:53,750 --> 01:40:53,119
and the diameter of the explosion was

2645
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:53,760
probably

2646
01:40:59,350 --> 01:40:57,040
hundreds of miles and it most likely it

2647
01:41:02,310 --> 01:40:59,360
happened about 300 000 years ago

2648
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:02,320
based on what they could do to date it

2649
01:41:04,790 --> 01:41:04,080
and of course the objects were found

2650
01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:04,800
deep

2651
01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:08,080
below the soil not on the surface and i

2652
01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:08,880
wish there was

2653
01:41:12,950 --> 01:41:11,440
money to study this because there are

2654
01:41:16,390 --> 01:41:12,960
still people in russia

2655
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:16,400
still the scientist who was observing it

2656
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,320
she still has it in her safe

2657
01:41:21,750 --> 01:41:20,800
and others do but but there's no there

2658
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:21,760
has not been

2659
01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:23,920
serious study of these objects but they

2660
01:41:28,390 --> 01:41:25,840
said look it's it's not

2661
01:41:30,310 --> 01:41:28,400
it's not our military they went to the

2662
01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:30,320
military a russian military

2663
01:41:34,390 --> 01:41:33,040
and they said no this is not our project

2664
01:41:35,669 --> 01:41:34,400
this is not something that we could even

2665
01:41:38,229 --> 01:41:35,679
do today

2666
01:41:39,669 --> 01:41:38,239
this is very interesting stuff again

2667
01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:39,679
euromountains

2668
01:41:46,070 --> 01:41:43,440
and there is more about the euros

2669
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:46,080
i wanted to show you this object and of

2670
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:47,840
course is for people on youtube

2671
01:41:53,350 --> 01:41:50,880
this is a place i um when i was

2672
01:41:54,550 --> 01:41:53,360
hiking in russia that i came to and i

2673
01:41:55,990 --> 01:41:54,560
forget what they're called

2674
01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:56,000
i'm sure you may know what they're

2675
01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:58,239
called dolmen

2676
01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:00,480
that's right that's exactly right yes

2677
01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:02,719
and uh they're ancient they have

2678
01:42:07,750 --> 01:42:05,760
because it's stone and cut stone they

2679
01:42:09,910 --> 01:42:07,760
have absolutely no idea how

2680
01:42:10,790 --> 01:42:09,920
old these things are but they could they

2681
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:10,800
they speculate

2682
01:42:15,990 --> 01:42:14,800
over 25 30 000 years ago but uh

2683
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:16,000
i don't know why i wanted to bring that

2684
01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:17,199
up but i just think that it's

2685
01:42:20,149 --> 01:42:18,080
fascinating

2686
01:42:21,510 --> 01:42:20,159
let me tell you i think we also

2687
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:21,520
mentioned them in the book but

2688
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:23,760
there is a legend in the caucasus

2689
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:25,440
territories

2690
01:42:30,629 --> 01:42:28,960
about a dwarf-like was very small

2691
01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:30,639
humanoid creatures they came from the

2692
01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:33,840
ocean and who built up those dolmens

2693
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:36,480
and they had strange knowledge and again

2694
01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:38,880
the size of the creatures

2695
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:40,639
takes me to the euro mountains and they

2696
01:42:44,950 --> 01:42:42,960
chewed people that were rumored to go

2697
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:44,960
and live in the bouts of the mountains

2698
01:42:47,109 --> 01:42:46,320
but let's go back to the caucasus

2699
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:47,119
mountains

2700
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:49,600
they built up those dolmens and they

2701
01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:51,040
were not

2702
01:42:54,070 --> 01:42:52,960
like religious there was someone for

2703
01:42:56,310 --> 01:42:54,080
some other purposes

2704
01:42:57,990 --> 01:42:56,320
you can find them in not far from

2705
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:58,000
nowhere sisk i think but also through

2706
01:43:02,470 --> 01:42:59,040
the carcasses

2707
01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:02,480
mountain territories and uh

2708
01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:05,600
one not long ago some idiots

2709
01:43:09,430 --> 01:43:08,320
i decided to see if they can take apart

2710
01:43:11,109 --> 01:43:09,440
one of those

2711
01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:11,119
structures and put it back together and

2712
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:12,639
they could not

2713
01:43:19,270 --> 01:43:16,000
were and nobody knows

2714
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:19,280
why i mean caucasus mountains

2715
01:43:23,669 --> 01:43:21,840
cough castle in russia it's it's a

2716
01:43:27,350 --> 01:43:23,679
fascinating territory as well

2717
01:43:30,790 --> 01:43:27,360
i brought up in articles and uh

2718
01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:30,800
in my video information about uh the

2719
01:43:34,229 --> 01:43:32,880
objects that were observed over georgia

2720
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:34,239
kingdom of georgia

2721
01:43:38,229 --> 01:43:36,320
back when the mongol empire attacked

2722
01:43:40,870 --> 01:43:38,239
them in another

2723
01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:40,880
from from armenia as well of objects

2724
01:43:44,550 --> 01:43:42,239
that have been cited there

2725
01:43:47,189 --> 01:43:44,560
it's fascinating but even before you

2726
01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:47,199
start getting into more ancient times

2727
01:43:50,390 --> 01:43:48,800
and seeing reports and what's

2728
01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:50,400
interesting when we speak

2729
01:43:57,270 --> 01:43:54,000
about those nine foot creatures

2730
01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:57,280
that i was asked about swimmers i

2731
01:44:02,270 --> 01:44:00,159
found a fascinating story in a book that

2732
01:44:03,750 --> 01:44:02,280
was published in the united states in

2733
01:44:07,270 --> 01:44:03,760
1925

2734
01:44:09,669 --> 01:44:07,280
by a georgian emigre and how he

2735
01:44:11,669 --> 01:44:09,679
when he was a boy and other boys were

2736
01:44:15,030 --> 01:44:11,679
able to get inside a cave

2737
01:44:16,550 --> 01:44:15,040
um in georgia submerged caves now but

2738
01:44:18,470 --> 01:44:16,560
at that time they could get into it and

2739
01:44:21,990 --> 01:44:18,480
they found skeletons

2740
01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:22,000
of nine foot humanoid beings

2741
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:25,760
inside that that cave can you believe it

2742
01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:28,000
and that it's not the only place i'm

2743
01:44:31,430 --> 01:44:29,679
sure in the former soviet union where

2744
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:31,440
that there are stories from lake is

2745
01:44:37,030 --> 01:44:32,880
school but

2746
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:37,040
again nine foot not not gigantic beings

2747
01:44:42,629 --> 01:44:38,159
but taller than

2748
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:42,639
us that's fascinating wow

2749
01:44:48,390 --> 01:44:45,760
um let's see we have

2750
01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:48,400
uh we have about uh let's see about six

2751
01:44:51,750 --> 01:44:50,080
or seven minutes but one thing i wanted

2752
01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:51,760
to make sure i also wanted to show you

2753
01:44:55,030 --> 01:44:53,280
this this was my favorite one that we

2754
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:55,040
found i really like this one

2755
01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:58,320
um and it i walked all around that thing

2756
01:45:02,310 --> 01:44:59,920
i got a bunch of pictures of it

2757
01:45:04,709 --> 01:45:02,320
they i can't believe the way they cut

2758
01:45:06,629 --> 01:45:04,719
into however long ago it was

2759
01:45:08,390 --> 01:45:06,639
where they'd cut from one rock right

2760
01:45:09,109 --> 01:45:08,400
into another and that always fascinates

2761
01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:09,119
me with

2762
01:45:13,830 --> 01:45:10,960
you know early architecture around the

2763
01:45:17,189 --> 01:45:13,840
world how they can cut stones so amazing

2764
01:45:20,149 --> 01:45:17,199
with what type of tools so

2765
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:20,159
yeah yeah absolutely that's great uh one

2766
01:45:22,790 --> 01:45:21,119
thing i wanted to

2767
01:45:24,950 --> 01:45:22,800
make sure that we got across there

2768
01:45:26,709 --> 01:45:24,960
beside your book and by the way anyone

2769
01:45:28,790 --> 01:45:26,719
listening to the show

2770
01:45:30,669 --> 01:45:28,800
in the show notes and also on the

2771
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:30,679
sidebar on my website

2772
01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:34,320
podcastufo.com um you will see access to

2773
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:37,199
uh to this book that we've been talking

2774
01:45:41,189 --> 01:45:38,800
about this evening

2775
01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:41,199
but what about your youtube channel

2776
01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:43,199
you're doing some great shows a number

2777
01:45:46,229 --> 01:45:44,960
of people in the chat room wanted me to

2778
01:45:48,390 --> 01:45:46,239
tell you that they really liked your

2779
01:45:49,990 --> 01:45:48,400
channel a lot

2780
01:45:51,510 --> 01:45:50,000
and i do have one question i promised

2781
01:45:54,229 --> 01:45:51,520
i'd put up there in a second

2782
01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:54,239
but let's give information about how

2783
01:45:59,669 --> 01:45:57,119
people can get to that youtube channel

2784
01:46:00,790 --> 01:45:59,679
very simple paranormal research paul

2785
01:46:04,310 --> 01:46:00,800
stonehill

2786
01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:04,320
uh just uh you know get put it in the

2787
01:46:10,070 --> 01:46:06,480
search in youtube when you will come

2788
01:46:11,510 --> 01:46:10,080
um into my channel and i every week i

2789
01:46:14,070 --> 01:46:11,520
try to put up

2790
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:14,080
more videos on different subjects

2791
01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:15,920
related to eurasian and of course

2792
01:46:20,870 --> 01:46:17,520
russian paranormal and more

2793
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:20,880
um for example i want to work on the

2794
01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:22,880
cases from the 18th century it was a

2795
01:46:27,109 --> 01:46:24,719
magnificent and

2796
01:46:27,910 --> 01:46:27,119
and bloody century in the history of my

2797
01:46:30,950 --> 01:46:27,920
country

2798
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:30,960
but many things happen

2799
01:46:37,109 --> 01:46:34,000
uh many things were found and

2800
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:37,119
pertaining to to let's say

2801
01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:40,800
paranormal research and and

2802
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:43,280
strange people who conducted it and i

2803
01:46:46,709 --> 01:46:44,159
promise i'll bring

2804
01:46:48,550 --> 01:46:46,719
more uh videos about this subject but

2805
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:48,560
also about other aspects

2806
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:52,000
of russian and central asian and chinese

2807
01:46:56,070 --> 01:46:53,119
paranormal

2808
01:46:58,870 --> 01:46:56,080
uh just as long as you know i have the

2809
01:47:01,990 --> 01:46:58,880
ability to do it i'll continue

2810
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:02,000
yes i'll say er the question let's see

2811
01:47:04,950 --> 01:47:03,760
the same person asked two different

2812
01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:04,960
questions so

2813
01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:07,600
along the same line uh this is from

2814
01:47:11,510 --> 01:47:08,480
stephen

2815
01:47:14,229 --> 01:47:11,520
um how have the government's

2816
01:47:16,390 --> 01:47:14,239
been able to maintain the ufo secrecy

2817
01:47:19,109 --> 01:47:16,400
for so long

2818
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:19,119
i'm sure that they have great uh

2819
01:47:23,030 --> 01:47:20,480
capabilities

2820
01:47:24,070 --> 01:47:23,040
in their hands to do so they have

2821
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:24,080
agencies

2822
01:47:27,430 --> 01:47:25,920
to help them protect this information

2823
01:47:30,629 --> 01:47:27,440
and it's a national

2824
01:47:32,950 --> 01:47:30,639
security issue for such governments

2825
01:47:36,390 --> 01:47:32,960
so no efforts and no money will be

2826
01:47:38,629 --> 01:47:36,400
spared to do so

2827
01:47:39,750 --> 01:47:38,639
okay very good um here's another

2828
01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:39,760
question i thought was kind of

2829
01:47:43,590 --> 01:47:40,960
interesting

2830
01:47:44,870 --> 01:47:43,600
um has putin ever commented on or

2831
01:47:48,070 --> 01:47:44,880
touched upon

2832
01:47:49,030 --> 01:47:48,080
the you know ufo or uso phenomenon at

2833
01:47:51,750 --> 01:47:49,040
any degree

2834
01:47:52,310 --> 01:47:51,760
absolutely about a month ago i put up a

2835
01:47:54,709 --> 01:47:52,320
video

2836
01:47:56,870 --> 01:47:54,719
of vladimir putin and ufos all the

2837
01:47:57,430 --> 01:47:56,880
information is inside including what he

2838
01:48:00,709 --> 01:47:57,440
said

2839
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:00,719
in 2005 and what

2840
01:48:05,750 --> 01:48:04,400
he is at the time president of russia

2841
01:48:07,990 --> 01:48:05,760
medvedev said

2842
01:48:09,750 --> 01:48:08,000
in later years conflicting information

2843
01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:09,760
but very interesting

2844
01:48:13,189 --> 01:48:11,920
and i want to assure you that vladimir

2845
01:48:17,510 --> 01:48:13,199
putin is very

2846
01:48:20,470 --> 01:48:17,520
serious about developments in the sky

2847
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:20,480
over russia and in the waters around

2848
01:48:25,590 --> 01:48:22,400
russia as well

2849
01:48:26,790 --> 01:48:25,600
wow well um and someone asked earlier on

2850
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:26,800
i can't find it right now

2851
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:29,679
but what is your favorite uso case if

2852
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:31,199
you have one

2853
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:35,360
my favorite uso i i have a number in

2854
01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:38,080
a number of cases uh to me one of the

2855
01:48:40,550 --> 01:48:38,480
most

2856
01:48:41,590 --> 01:48:40,560
interesting cases was what happened to

2857
01:48:44,550 --> 01:48:41,600
the soviet

2858
01:48:46,390 --> 01:48:44,560
uh ship novoracisk when it was

2859
01:48:49,750 --> 01:48:46,400
completely disabled

2860
01:48:53,189 --> 01:48:49,760
uh by uh a uso

2861
01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:53,199
but also also cases in the far east

2862
01:48:56,470 --> 01:48:55,280
and around kamchatka especially

2863
01:48:58,790 --> 01:48:56,480
kamchatka

2864
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:58,800
uh peninsula it's a very interesting

2865
01:49:04,070 --> 01:49:00,719
area to keep your eyes on

2866
01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:04,080
and probably

2867
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:06,800
yes go ahead go ahead probably cases

2868
01:49:10,870 --> 01:49:08,480
around the coriol islands

2869
01:49:12,229 --> 01:49:10,880
a very interesting case we have just a

2870
01:49:15,270 --> 01:49:12,239
couple minutes but can you

2871
01:49:17,510 --> 01:49:15,280
just for my own interest because uh

2872
01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:17,520
the novorossic is the place that i go

2873
01:49:20,709 --> 01:49:18,320
there

2874
01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:20,719
and so what this thing was disabled you

2875
01:49:23,589 --> 01:49:21,440
said

2876
01:49:25,030 --> 01:49:23,599
well yeah but it was disabled that the

2877
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:25,040
the the ship not know what it sees

2878
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:27,040
it was the ship but it was the name of

2879
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:28,800
the ship but it was disabled by a

2880
01:49:33,109 --> 01:49:31,760
wall i'd say the name of the ship was

2881
01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:33,119
and uh

2882
01:49:37,109 --> 01:49:35,040
hope i recall it correct but no it was

2883
01:49:37,910 --> 01:49:37,119
disabled it wasn't that long ago it was

2884
01:49:40,070 --> 01:49:37,920
back in early

2885
01:49:41,189 --> 01:49:40,080
i mean sorry in late 1980s but still

2886
01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:41,199
under the soviet

2887
01:49:48,390 --> 01:49:44,480
regime it was completely disabled and

2888
01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:48,400
but the most scary

2889
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:51,520
case goes back to 1977

2890
01:49:55,750 --> 01:49:54,560
when a soviet uh submarine base floating

2891
01:49:59,270 --> 01:49:55,760
submarine base

2892
01:50:02,070 --> 01:49:59,280
was uh approached by nine objects

2893
01:50:02,790 --> 01:50:02,080
and the and the strange dance they did

2894
01:50:06,390 --> 01:50:02,800
in the sky

2895
01:50:09,030 --> 01:50:06,400
over this uh submarine base in the

2896
01:50:10,709 --> 01:50:09,040
in the secret waters of the arctic ocean

2897
01:50:14,149 --> 01:50:10,719
and what the captain

2898
01:50:15,669 --> 01:50:14,159
did how he forced the crew to write down

2899
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:15,679
what was happening because he didn't

2900
01:50:18,229 --> 01:50:17,440
want to be considered to be an insane

2901
01:50:21,669 --> 01:50:18,239
person

2902
01:50:24,310 --> 01:50:21,679
when they got to shore

2903
01:50:25,189 --> 01:50:24,320
wow that's pretty fascinating well thank

2904
01:50:28,229 --> 01:50:25,199
you so much

2905
01:50:31,589 --> 01:50:28,239
and uh the name of the book again

2906
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:31,599
is uh russia's let me get to it i see it

2907
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:33,599
russia's uso secrets

2908
01:50:37,990 --> 01:50:36,400
unidentified submersible objects and you

2909
01:50:41,030 --> 01:50:38,000
can finish the rest because i can't

2910
01:50:41,350 --> 01:50:41,040
see it in international waters is that

2911
01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:41,360
yes

2912
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:46,800
don't make it too complete russia's uso

2913
01:50:51,830 --> 01:50:48,800
secrets you'll find it

2914
01:50:53,510 --> 01:50:51,840
yes and written by you and uh with uh uh

2915
01:50:54,629 --> 01:50:53,520
philip mantle as well he'll be on the

2916
01:50:57,589 --> 01:50:54,639
show in a

2917
01:50:59,189 --> 01:50:57,599
few weeks down the road so thank you so

2918
01:50:59,910 --> 01:50:59,199
much paul it's been a real pleasure as

2919
01:51:01,830 --> 01:50:59,920
always real

2920
01:51:03,350 --> 01:51:01,840
really nice to talk to you tonight thank

2921
01:51:06,790 --> 01:51:03,360
you so much all the best

2922
01:51:08,629 --> 01:51:06,800
thank you all right sure bye

2923
01:51:10,629 --> 01:51:08,639
all right everyone so that's it for our

2924
01:51:13,109 --> 01:51:10,639
show this evening thanks so much and

2925
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:13,119
remember it's not next tuesday

2926
01:51:17,510 --> 01:51:15,280
um i should bring up the date so i say

2927
01:51:19,109 --> 01:51:17,520
it clearly i think it's the

2928
01:51:20,709 --> 01:51:19,119
uh well it's taking forever to get the

2929
01:51:24,550 --> 01:51:20,719
calendar up here we go

2930
01:51:27,830 --> 01:51:24,560
um it is the following tuesday and

2931
01:51:29,430 --> 01:51:27,840
and that date is the 10th of november

2932
01:51:31,830 --> 01:51:29,440
that's when i'll be back and i'm going

2933
01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:31,840
to be with uh uh irene previn

2934
01:51:36,390 --> 01:51:34,800
from australia i want to thank everyone

2935
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:36,400
that listened to the show

2936
01:51:40,310 --> 01:51:38,560
and for the people that have helped out

2937
01:51:42,310 --> 01:51:40,320
as well i appreciate it all thanks for

2938
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:42,320
your good questions in chat

2939
01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:45,040
and i think that's going to do it for

2940
01:51:47,910 --> 01:51:46,000
today

2941
01:51:49,510 --> 01:51:47,920
and happy halloween to everyone and

2942
01:52:09,750 --> 01:51:49,520
remember to keep your eyes to the sky